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Wanna see how much reflective is the iMac?

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Sorry, I posted this first in an existing thread, while I wanted to start a new one!

Wanna see how much reflective is the iMac, I just saw this gallery from Macworld:

http://gallery.mac.com/mwmagazine#100012

There is a few pictures there where you can see the glass effects quite real. On one you see the cameraman next to the window, and on another you can clearly see the room's light in the screen!

I really don't think I'll love that...
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In two pictures, the reflections are very bad. In the much larger number of other pictures, taken from angles that one might actually use the computer from, the screen is fine. I don't use my computer from ten feet to the left of it, the reflections when viewed from that angle don't really bother me...
In two pictures, the reflections are very bad. In the much larger number of other pictures, taken from angles that one might actually use the computer from, the screen is fine. I don't use my computer from ten feet to the left of it, the reflections when viewed from that angle don't really bother me...
But even if you look at the display directly in front of it, those reflections are still there and will generate ghost image in your view.

When I tried the Sony display 2-3 years ago, the reflections were very bad from the side, but even in front, there were ghosts images or even my face that reflected in it. I could not live with that any longer than a week!
Boy - that shot with the cameraman says it all. There's no way I'll buy one.
The display is turned off. We all know what glass on black becomes right? That's really not a fair thing to criticize about reflections with the display turned off.
The display is turned off. We all know what glass on black becomes right? That's really not a fair thing to criticize about reflections with the display turned off.
I do not know where you saw the display off. They are on as far as I see.
I've used the new imac with it on and the refection is still strong. It's such a perfect machine they had to ruin it with the glossy screen.
I've been very vocal about the decision to go glossy-only. I've mentioned several times that glossy is not a good thing, and using as a main screen would be a big no-no for me (I need precision, both in color accuracy and in a clean image without reflections). However, it's not THAT bad. Those pictures are from odd angles, on dark screens. Of course there's reflection. From the front, with an image on the screen, it's not that bad. And in controlled lighting (i.e. not on a laptop where you have no control over your environment) reflections can be kept to a minimum.

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I've used the new imac with it on and the refection is still strong. It's such a perfect machine they had to ruin it with the glossy screen.
I believe Apple should had offered both the glossy and non-glossy screen on the iMac, as they do with the MacBook Pro.

Steve Jobs in the special event said: our customers like and prefer the glossy screen. Where that come from? Which customers?

Is Apple going to renew their ACD with glossy screen too? I'd like to see a 30" with glossy screen, must be nice to shave when you wake up in the morning! ;)

He also said: the iMac appeal to both consumers and pros : most pros that have talked about the glossy screen have said that it is a bad thing for photo editing. So, I'm not sure the new iMac appeal that much to pros!
I've been very vocal about the decision to go glossy-only. I've mentioned several times that glossy is not a good thing, and using as a main screen would be a big no-no for me (I need precision, both in color accuracy and in a clean image without reflections). However, it's not THAT bad. Those pictures are from odd angles, on dark screens. Of course there's reflection. From the front, with an image on the screen, it's not that bad. And in controlled lighting (i.e. not on a laptop where you have no control over your environment) reflections can be kept to a minimum.

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I still have to see one in person before I make my final decision, but I remember a sony I had in my environment, and I could see myself reflecting in the screen. When I was editing photos and wanted to view from different angle, or nearer from the screen, what I saw was my face, not the picture. Very disturbing when you're trying to view fine details.
I still have to see one in person before I make my final decision
You mean you're ranting and raving, and you haven't even seen one in person yet? That's not very nice. :p

Keep in mind that even if you see it in person in a store, that's not the same as seeing it at home. You'd have to see it in the same way... in a smaller room with a simple 60W soft bulb (like 99% of homes out there). Stores are designed to pump out a lot of light, and be bright an inviting. It's not going to be an accurate representation if you see it in a bright store.

Also, you seem to think that only photo editors are pros. I'm a pro... video editor. I just bought the iMac BECAUSE of the the glossy screen. Why? Because I already have a 24" matte display that I will use as my main screen for editing, and I can use the glossy iMac as my preview monitor. Simply put, the new iMac screen is designed to mimic a TV. So I get to work with color accuracy on the matte display, and also preview what the end "TV ready" result will be with the iMac display. It's the best of both worlds for me.

In any case, you shouldn't be complaining about the glossy screen if you didn't even see it yet. ;)

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Also, you seem to think that only photo editors are pros. I'm a pro... video editor. I just bought the iMac BECAUSE of the the glossy screen. Why? Because I already have a 24" matte display that I will use as my main screen for editing, and I can use the glossy iMac as my preview monitor. Simply put, the new iMac screen is designed to mimic a TV. So I get to work with color accuracy on the matte display, and also preview what the end "TV ready" result will be with the iMac display. It's the best of both worlds for me.

In any case, you shouldn't be complaining about the glossy screen if you didn't even see it yet. ;)
You are a pro and you are using LCD monitors for video editing? How much of the NTSC gamut are you seeing?
I was in the market for a new iMac but started looking for a used unit immediately when I saw that glossy screen--and I saw it in person. It is so aesthetically displeasing I will never buy a machine with that feature.
You are a pro and you are using LCD monitors for video editing? How much of the NTSC gamut are you seeing?
I have a CRT video monitor as well, but let's face it... the world is moving to LCD and plasma. I'm not doing broadcast, so true broadcast NTSC levels are irrelevant to me. Besides, if I got to broadcast, I'd just need to fix levels for broadcast and re-export anyway. It's not like content producers use one single export version for TV, DVD, and web... you export for your intended viewer. I'd rather be seeing what my viewer is seeing, and if they're moving to LCD, then I have to as well.

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You mean you're ranting and raving, and you haven't even seen one in person yet? That's not very nice. :p
I live too far away from any Apple reseller. The only place I may see one, is Staple, and now they only have MacBooks, with glossy screen, which I'm not really impress by. I have to decide what I will do, but I'm almost decided to go with a mini and a matte screen I choose myself.

Keep in mind that even if you see it in person in a store, that's not the same as seeing it at home. You'd have to see it in the same way... in a smaller room with a simple 60W soft bulb (like 99% of homes out there). Stores are designed to pump out a lot of light, and be bright an inviting. It's not going to be an accurate representation if you see it in a bright store.
In my computer room, I have a fluorescent like in most office. I could not stand having a yellow light in my room to work with my computer. So, this looks a little but like what you'll find in a store!

Also, you seem to think that only photo editors are pros. I'm a pro... video editor. I just bought the iMac BECAUSE of the the glossy screen. Why? Because I already have a 24" matte display that I will use as my main screen for editing, and I can use the glossy iMac as my preview monitor. Simply put, the new iMac screen is designed to mimic a TV. So I get to work with color accuracy on the matte display, and also preview what the end "TV ready" result will be with the iMac display. It's the best of both worlds for me.
No, I don't. I just talked about what I read so far, and all articles were about photo editing, versus printing and so on. For video editing, like you said, maybe you have an advantage of behind able to see the TV effet on the iMac screen. That's a plus for you. In my case, I do not really plan to have two 24" side by side, as my desk if not big enough for this, and anyway, it will be too much for me.

My goal having the iMac was to have a simple all in one computer without too much cables and in an elegant presentation on my desk. Having to buy a second display for some tasks will not be exactly what I had in mind.

In any case, you shouldn't be complaining about the glossy screen if you didn't even see it yet. ;)
Like I said, I saw the Sony display I had a few years back, and I do not see that one very different than the Sony, even after a few more years of technology advancement in that field. I do not want to have a glossy screen for the next 2-3 years that I dislike most of the time. Even if the mini is a little less powerful, if it no longer fits my power requirement in 2 years, it is less expensive to upgrade it to a new model, than it is for the iMac.
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In real life, it's really not as bad as it seems in those pictures. I personally love how the glossy screen makes my pictures look.
I've had my macbook for over a year now, and the glossy screen hasn't bothered me.
I do not know where you saw the display off. They are on as far as I see.
At the time I posted there was only one machine with the display turned on. Even then with the display turned on I don't see reflections unless you're viewing from a really sharp angle... that's too bad. The previous iMac was perfect even from sharp viewing angles. But most people do sit in front of the computer.
I was in Futureshop today and saw the new 20" iMac with the glossy screen. Just gorgeous! The glare was not even noticeable, but what was noticeable was the vibrant colours of the screen. Under those lights the screen should produced much more glare, but I really had to strain to see myself in the reflection. Honestly folks, go and have a look in person. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.

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At the time I posted there was only one machine with the display turned on. Even then with the display turned on I don't see reflections unless you're viewing from a really sharp angle... that's too bad. The previous iMac was perfect even from sharp viewing angles. But most people do sit in front of the computer.
The pictures are the same since I posted the link here!

The previous iMac screens were just perfect. So why did Apple decided to play with the most critical part of a computer just to make a try. At least, they should have offered both options, like for the MBP.
In real life, it's really not as bad as it seems in those pictures. I personally love how the glossy screen makes my pictures look.
I've had my macbook for over a year now, and the glossy screen hasn't bothered me.
Do you have a MacBook and a new iMac? Because the size of the MacBook screen vs the size of the iMac can makes a lot of differences.
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