US Declares Iran's Revolutionary Guard A Terrorist Organization

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SINC

Discussion Starter · Aug 16, 2007

Bush is an idiot to take this kind of action. Talk about slapping a quiet hornet’s nest!

The sad details which may lead to an air strike against Iran:

“WASHINGTON - A U.S. decision to designate Iran's Revolutionary Guard as a foreign terrorist organization fuelled speculation Wednesday the White House is laying the groundwork for air strikes against the hardline Islamic nation before President George W. Bush leaves office.
Foreign policy analysts were surprised Wednesday by the reported White House decision, which would mark the first time in history that the U.S. has formally declared the armed forces of a sovereign nation to be terrorists.
"The United States has chosen to up the ante against Iran. This is a warning, or an indicator, that a major policy shift is unfolding within the Bush administration," said retired U.S. air force colonel Sam Gardiner, an Iran policy specialist and former war games planner at the National War College.”

http://www.canada.com/edmontonjournal/news/story.html?id=0879abfb-dbc1-4d9f-8df0-c5e62bf86339

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Jeepdude

· #2 · Aug 16, 2007

Every leader wants to remembered throughout history as leaving a great legacy.

Bush's legacy will be to have left the world a much more dangerous and violent place than he found it when he took office.

It almost seems as if he's scrambling to uncover new conflicts to take on before he leaves office.

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BigDL

· #3 · Aug 16, 2007

Quite a day in History Aug 16,

1977 Elvis dead

1980 my first born

2007 Sinc comes to conclusion Bush is an IDIOT.

Bush is an idiot...

There is still hope in this old world.

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SINC

Discussion Starter · #4 · Aug 16, 2007

BigDL said:
Quite a day in History Aug 16,

1977 Elvis dead

1980 my first born

2007 Sinc comes to conclusion Bush is an IDIOT. There is still hope in this old world.

SINC has known this fact for many years now.

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zoziw

· #5 · Aug 16, 2007

Although the IRG is somewhat separate from the regular Iranian military, they have been officially part of the military since the early 80's.

After 9/11, Congress gave Bush the authority to hunt down and engage terrorists and their organizations. While this action would allow the US to crack down more on the financial side of things, the larger reality is that it effectively allows Bush to attack Iranian military (an act of war) without getting congressional approval...which is a tidy way to get around that pesky "division of powers" issue that the US Constitution tries to spell out.

The rumour I have been hearing for many months now is that the decision to attack Iran was made a long time ago.

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BigDL

· #6 · Aug 16, 2007

SINC said:
SINC has known this fact for many years now.

Sinc knew of my eldest daughter's birthday. How interesting!

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SINC

Discussion Starter · #7 · Aug 16, 2007

Perhaps because today is my better half's 65th? Might have something to do with it.

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rgray

· #8 · Aug 16, 2007

It is about time that somebody declared the USofA a terrorist organisation!!!!!!!!

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ArtistSeries

· #9 · Aug 16, 2007

rgray said:
It is about time that somebody declared the USofA a terrorist organisation!!!!!!!!

This labelling is amusing. Next to no one cries when certain groups were called terrorists but since Bush seems to have pushed this nonsense to an extreme, now some seem to be waking up....

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kps

· #10 · Aug 17, 2007

Personally I find it rather amusing that Bush&Co decided to single the IRG as a terrorist organization when they already declared the whole country of Iran as a Terrorist Country...:lmao:

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Beej

· #11 · Aug 17, 2007

Maybe they are becoming more precise.

Ministry of Silly Walks: not a terrorist organisation. Revolutionary Guard: terrorist organisation. Tehran Neighbourhood Watch: indeterminate.

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ArtistSeries

· #12 · Aug 17, 2007

Beej said:
Maybe they are becoming more precise.

Ministry of Silly Walks: not a terrorist organisation. Revolutionary Guard: terrorist organisation. Tehran Neighbourhood Watch: indeterminate.

Now it seems that men are

After more than a decade of warning that the greatest threat of homegrown terrorism for the United States came from individual lone-wolf radicals, the FBI and other law enforcement agencies have begun focusing on what they say is a greater threat -- small, anonymous groups of disaffected men who radicalize one another and turn to violence.

Federal officials say that most of the domestic terrorist threats now under investigation involve such groups, though they continue to rank Al Qaeda as the greatest danger globally.

http://www.latimes.com/news/printed...aug16,1,7999279,full.story?ctrack=1&cset=true

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zoziw

· #13 · Aug 21, 2007

Let the good times roll:

Reports that the Bush Administration will put Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps on the terrorism list can be read in one of two ways: it's either more bluster or, ominously, a wind-up for a strike on Iran. Officials I talk to in Washington vote for a hit on the IRGC, maybe within the next six months.

Strengthening the Administration's case for a strike on Iran, there's a belief among neo-cons that the IRGC is the one obstacle to a democratic and friendly Iran. They believe that if we were to get rid of the IRGC, the clerics would fall, and our thirty-years war with Iran over. It's another neo-con delusion, but still it informs White House thinking.

And what do we do if just the opposite happens — a strike on Iran unifies Iranians behind the regime? An Administration official told me it's not even a consideration. "IRGC IED's are a casus belli for this Administration. There will be an attack on Iran."

Time

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CubaMark

· #14 · Aug 21, 2007

Jeepdude said:
Every leader wants to remembered throughout history as leaving a great legacy. Bush's legacy will be to have left the world a much more dangerous and violent place than he found it when he took office. It almost seems as if he's scrambling to uncover new conflicts to take on before he leaves office.

Of course. The writing is on the wall for the Republicans. The Democrats could nominate Mickey "heckuva job" Brown as their candidate in the 2008 elections, and still win after what Bush / Rove / Cheney have done. So give the Dems an impossible situation to clean up: war on multiple fronts, a devastating debt, crumbling infrastructure, ad nauseum, and the Republicans hope to see a strong swing back to them in the following term, as the planet crumbles and fear+loathing intensify.

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