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Upgrading 10.3.9 to 10.4

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If I Upgrade 10.3.9 to 10.4 (using archive and install), will I have to re-install my apps? I'm worried that my licenses will be overwritten/deleted.

Thanks a bunch

Peter
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Unlikely. However, some Adobe products (and some select others) may break. Most apps, however, will not break under an Archive and Install. Better yet, just do a straight 'Upgrade.' Archive and Install from 10.3.9 to 10.4.x is wasteful at best unless your Mac is having some technical difficulties with its OS/software.
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Hi Lars,

Thanks for your reply. I really appreciate it!

So I'm wondering then. Would it be better to do this:

I tested the OS on an external drive, a LACIE 60G
Would it be better to make that drive the startup drive and use
migrate utility to change apps to that drive if there are problems?

When the migrate utility is used, does it transfer the whole app to the other drive, or does it transfer just the license/prefs?
if it transfers whole app, is there a method to just transfer the license so that
i can save space on the LACIE drive.

If I use the external LACIE drive as the startup drive, will there be a performance drop?

Thanks so much,

Peter
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Forget that. :) Use your internal as your startup/main boot drive, and use the LaCie as your backup hard drive. Migration Assistant creates an exact duplicate of one drive to another. All your software licenses will stay intact along with your software.
If I Upgrade 10.3.9 to 10.4 (using archive and install), will I have to re-install my apps? I'm worried that my licenses will be overwritten/deleted.

Thanks a bunch

Peter
1. you should always make a FULL backup onto another hard drive just in case something happens during your upgrade.

2. runs OnyX on the drive before upgrade

3. Don't use 'archive and install'. Just upgrade. licences should be fine, but be aware of notes in point 1.
If I Upgrade 10.3.9 to 10.4 (using archive and install), will I have to re-install my apps? I'm worried that my licenses will be overwritten/deleted.

Thanks a bunch

Peter
Why not wait and upgrade in a month to 10.5? If you are upgrading because you need to in order to run an app, that is one thing. However if you're upgrading just to stay current, I'd wait and go to Leopard.

I know of at least one developer that says that they will only support Leopard in any of their releases starting in 2008. Their explanation was "there are too many features that we can't afford to take advantage of ..." They are a developer of business applications so I have no problem with their decision. Very few of my customers are not on Tiger right now.

If they were developing applications for consumers, I'd want them to be a bit more flexible in their thinking. However they have always maintained a release for previous operating systems that users can continue to purchase.

I went from 10.2 directly to 10.4 two and a half years ago. If a customer came to me today I'd recommend the same thing. Wait the month.
3. Don't use 'archive and install'. Just upgrade. licences should be fine, but be aware of notes in point 1.[/quote]


Silly question:
When you say "Just upgrade" and not use "archive and install"
Is that a different option from the install disk or does that mean to re-format and install fresh.

Thanks so much for all post!
3. Don't use 'archive and install'. Just upgrade. licences should be fine, but be aware of notes in point 1.
Silly question:
When you say "Just upgrade" and not use "archive and install"
Is that a different option from the install disk or does that mean to re-format and install fresh.

Thanks so much for all post!
#3 is the option I suggested originally in my above post(s). 'Upgrade' it the default option; the Archive and Install option needs to be manually selected if used.

1) Upgrade - upgrades current system to the new version of Mac OS X. (10.3 > 10.4, etc.) Nothing on your system changes except the fact that you'd be running a newer version of Mac OS X.

2) Archive and Install - replaces current System folder with a new one and archives the old one which can then be deleted. Good if the current OS is corrupted/broken.

3) Erase and Install - formats the hard drive and installs a fresh copy of Mac OS X.
#3 is the option I suggested originally in my above post(s). 'Upgrade' it the default option; the Archive and Install option needs to be manually selected if used.

1) Upgrade - upgrades current system to the new version of Mac OS X. (10.3 > 10.4, etc.) Nothing on your system changes except the fact that you'd be running a newer version of Mac OS X.

2) Archive and Install - replaces current System folder with a new one and archives the old one which can then be deleted. Good if the current OS is corrupted/broken.

3) Erase and Install - formats the hard drive and installs a fresh copy of Mac OS X.
One more question:
Is there any downside to exercising option 1

(1) Upgrade - upgrades current system to the new version of Mac OS X. (10.3 > 10.4, etc.) Nothing on your system changes except the fact that you'd be running a newer version of Mac OS X.)

Thanks again!
One more question:
Is there any downside to exercising option 1

(1) Upgrade - upgrades current system to the new version of Mac OS X. (10.3 > 10.4, etc.) Nothing on your system changes except the fact that you'd be running a newer version of Mac OS X.)

Thanks again!
No downside. Unless your OS/software is having problems, the 'Upgrade' option is your best option.
G
Forget that. :) Use your internal as your startup/main boot drive, and use the LaCie as your backup hard drive. Migration Assistant creates an exact duplicate of one drive to another. All your software licenses will stay intact along with your software.
Actually migration assistant is not even close to doing what you say, it doesn't make an exact duplicate of drives at all ... it copies over all the files you tell it to do from one drive to another and it's not fool-proof by any means. I've seen it muck up quite a few applications that use non-standard means of authorization (many music apps, some adobe apps, some video apps, etc). It takes a "best guess" approach to all the files associated with the applications you want to migrate.
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