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I have said it on numerous occasions. So-called green initiatives usually fail to consider the entire equation. Case in point replacing those Incandescent light bulbs. Sounds good, it uses less electricity. Well not enough to actually see a difference on your bill but it does use less.

So what's wrong with that. Well the replacement LED and CFBs contain Mercury and Phosphors not the things we want going into our landfills. And this is Canada, so 9 months of the year that wasted heat from incandescents is not wasted, it helps to heat our homes. The other 3 months, light bulbs are not really needed thanks to very long northern summer days.

Then there is the fractured color spectrum and having the lights cycle on and off 60 times per second and of course radio interference.

Looking at the entire equation those environmentally green bulbs are anything but.
 

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The last straw

This was the article that inspired this thread:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/paper-straws-not-biodegradable-in-landfill-1.4751021

In a landfill, trash is covered up with dirt or gravel, cutting off the oxygen that is needed for garbage to decompose.

The lowly plastic straw has become a flashpoint in a world realizing the enormity of its problem with disposable plastics, prompting a rash of announcements to ditch plastic ones in favour of paper.

But the founder of an Edmonton waste diversion company says that, while the move to plant-based materials is laudable, it may be still a wasted effort.

Literally.

"If these plant-based straws, these paper straws, go to the landfill, they don't decompose," Courtney Powell, founder of Elevated Enviro, told CBC's Edmonton AM on Tuesday.

"Nothing really decomposes in a landfill. So it is no different than a plastic straw going there."
According to Powell, the move to biodegradable materials is only effective if it is accompanied by an on-site composting program.
'Nuff said
 

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The solution to the straw issue is to not use a straw and if you eat fast food, refuse to take the straws.
 

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The solution to the straw issue is to not use a straw and if you eat fast food, refuse to take the straws.
:clap::clap::clap: Or, don't eat fast food at all, or at least not the soft drinks that are mainly sugar.
 

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I carry a gold-plated straw with me wherever I go.
 

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The solution apparently is as our government has done for ages and will continue to do, is put a tax on whatever it is that's apparently offending!!

Works for them it seems. :eek:
 

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The solution apparently is as our government has done for ages and will continue to do, is put a tax on whatever it is that's apparently offending!!

Works for them it seems. :eek:
okay tax it and then what? where does that money go? other than liberal pockets.

there are two ways in being being green..

off grid and on grid but with the government passing laws and taxes to be off grid it doesnt help.
 
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