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The Tories and the arts

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From the CBC:

http://www.cbc.ca/arts/books/story/2007/04/24/qc-atwoodonartsfunding0424.html

She was deeply critical of the Harper government's cuts to the arts, especially the literary arts.

"They basically just hate us," she said in an interview with CBC Radio. "You know it’s people who have never seen any arts in their own lives — they would rather not have gardens, they would rather have parking lots. They just think it’s a frill probably."
Thoughts?
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You could have pulled that quote from the "arts community" at any time during the last thousand years or so. Substitute "town square" for parking lots.

It's really tough when people don't celebrate you for the art you feel compelled to create. Since the public isn't interested, government makes a good scapegoat.
They do, though.

You could have pulled that quote from the "arts community" at any time during the last thousand years or so. Substitute "town square" for parking lots.

It's really tough when people don't celebrate you for the art you feel compelled to create. Since the public isn't interested, government makes a good scapegoat.
The goverment should realize that arts and sports are a way for nations to prove their status on the world stage. It can be about displaying power and success without the expense of military.

The cold war was fought with war and sport also. Each trying to outdo the other and prove superiority.

Canada can fight above it's weight with its art.
You can put someone on welfare or you give them an artist grant. Which do you think is better for the nation and the economy. Which is the most productive use of money.

Governments always subsidize all sorts of business ventures. Art (whether we like it or not) can be see as legitamate business.
You can put someone on welfare or you give them an artist grant. Which do you think is better for the nation and the economy. Which is the most productive use of money.
Give them welfare and let them paint in their free time.
Give them welfare and let them pave roads in their spare time.

This also works for our Olympic athletes.

Give them welfare and let them practice world class sport in their spare time.
I see your point, but in Canada the public tends to look more kindly on our athletes than on our artists. We're afraid to get behind the arts.. who knows what kind of ghouls and torments it could unleash. It's quaintly Canuck to not give a... hoot.
Bread and Circuses.

“Bread and circuses” has come to be a derogatory phrase that can criticize either government policies to pacify the citizenry, or the shallow, decadent desires of that same citizenry. In both cases, it refers to low-cost, low-quality, high-availability food and entertainment that have become the sole concern of the People, to the exclusion of matters that the speaker considers more important: e.g. the Arts, public works projects, human rights, or democracy itself. The phrase is commonly used to refer to short-term government palliatives offered in place of a solution for significant, long-term problems.
Yep, things haven't been the same since Lawren Harris stopped tackling the issues of the day.

With the internet, we have access to all of the arts anybody cares to produce all over the world. I have never seen more art installations, shows and public displays of art at a local level. The "art supply problem" has been solved already.

We now only need now to convince people that they should look at it.
Sadly, from what I've been hearing, the same story holds for the Tories and the Sciences.

If Harper gets his majority, research funding is Canada will drop precipitously from it's already laughably low levels.

Something else to keep in mind during the next election.
If Harper gets his majority, research funding is Canada will drop precipitously from it's already laughably low levels.
I think government funding in general would take a pretty serious hit (arts, sciences, probably health etc...). The people who back the Conservatives don't want their tax dollars funding much of anything, they want it back in their pockets.
The people who back the Conservatives don't want their tax dollars funding much of anything, they want it back in their pockets.
Bingo! I hope they can deliver on this.
Bingo! I hope they can deliver on this.
I guess that kind of proves my point. :)
Underfunding the arts isn't a new thing, where do you think the term starving artist came from? The arts isn't going to disappear even if funding is cut totally, people in the arts do it because they love it, and understand the fact that they are not going to become rich from being an artist of any kind.
Governments tend to spend in areas that are popular with the majority of citizens. The arts is not in that majority. Randomly stop 10 people in the street on any given day and you will be hard pressed to find one who would favour giving money to the arts. This society leaves galleries and museums empty while you see line ups for wrestling and hockey.
Not when there are elementary school kids to fill them.
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