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Covid Live Updates: The Unvaccinated Are 11 Times More Likely to Die if Infected, C.D.C. Reports
This from the New York Times, (this article is a free article), data from some fairly large studies released. Despite some embarrassingly uninformed tap dancing around here it looks like the vaccines are in fact quite effective at preventing infection, very effective at preventing hospitalization and death. Interesting that we see absolutely no such data on horse dewormer, and likely nor will we. Of course we will continue to hear that the reason for this is because of some ‘false narrative’, but I believe the correct response would be, put up or shut up. :LOL:

hospitals are still continuing to report that the overwhelming majority of their hospitalizations are unvaccinated. Ironic that the possible reaching a peak and the numbers receding in this 4th wave, would likely be the result of high vaccination numbers in many regions in Canada. Here in Toronto we're almost 80% fully vaccinated for 12+ and they are pushing to get up to 90% which may be possible with the vaccine mandates.

Alberta has some catching up to do, and it appears their health minister today admitted it was likely premature to begin treating covid as endemic. Wow. Ya think???

if they would only listen to a couple of dingbats on ehmac!
Three studies that drew data from different U.S. regions evaluated the protective power of the vaccines. One looked at more than 600,000 virus cases in 13 states, representing about one quarter of the U.S. population, between April and July, and concluded that individuals who were not fully vaccinated were far more susceptible to infection and death from the virus.

They were 4.5 times more likely than vaccinated individuals to become infected, 10 times more likely to be hospitalized, and 11 times more likely to die from the coronavirus, the study found.
 

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Intensive care beds are 130% over capacity
The latest COVID-19 numbers:

  • Alberta reported 10 more deaths from COVID on Friday. A total of 2,444 Albertans have died of COVID-19.
  • Alberta reported 1,473 new cases out of more than 13,625 tests on Friday.
  • The positivity rate was 11.65 per cent.
  • The province is leading the country in daily new COVID cases and active cases.
  • There were 16,265 active cases across Alberta.
  • By comparison, Ontario, a province with more than three times the population, has less than half the number of active cases.
 

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How many people are in ICU beds, MacDoc?
 

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remedial reading advised - that would be Alberta.
Intensive care beds are 130% over capacity
at the going rate we won't have to deal with the rightwingnuts in public service or public venues and even many stores, restaurants and theatres.

 
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Those are some startling patient stats, MacDoc! A list 130% long!
 

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If Europe is any indication of the enforceability of these "passports" you will have little solace.

at the going rate we won't have to deal with the rightwingnuts in public service or public venues and even many stores, restaurants and theatres.
 

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You know how when little kids reach that age where they will pester you with questions that begin with why.

It’s a whole lot less adorable when it’s a forum troll.
 

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Yes, I can easily find the number of people in ICU with COVID. More difficult to find the number of people in ICU beds in total. That number appears to fluctuate wildly.

There are currently 169 CoVid cases in the ICU in Alberta, triple, almost quadruple the number the last time you minimized it. 87% of hospital admissions are unvaccinated. These numbers are not that hard to find, dude.

https://www.alberta.ca/stats/covid-19-alberta-statistics.htm
 

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Yes, I can easily find the number of people in ICU with COVID. More difficult to find the number of people in ICU beds in total. That number appears to fluctuate wildly.
Doesn’t change the fact that your intention seemed to be to minimize the problem. Which is what you often do.
 

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Yep. Always in like a dirty shirt to wind shit up and frustrate people til they walk away. It's not about differences of opinion, the posts of his Ive reviewed and reposted as the data comes out as we knew it would, he's almost always wrong, but the intention is pretty much to piss people off in a conversation, not to offer a different opinion at all.

he’s done it for years here. Useless.
 

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remedial reading advised - that would be Alberta.


at the going rate we won't have to deal with the rightwingnuts in public service or public venues and even many stores, restaurants and theatres.

What our resident troll isn't capable of understanding, is that it's less about the perfection of enforcement, and all about getting the majority of the unvaccinated convinced to get vaccinated. It was a gamble Macron took in France and it quite clearly paid off. The vaccination rates skyrocketed, even while the smaller group of idiots pretended they actually mattered to anyone protesting in the streets, huge numbers of people were getting vaccinated daily despite them. What has happened, which is likely to happen here in regions of high vaccination rates if they're any indication, as infection rates rise with the delta variant, it'll peak and hospitalization rates will go down as there are less idiots unvaccinated, because the data clearly shows without question the vast majority filling up hospitals, are unvaccinated. Period.

Here in Canada, where vaccine mandates have been announced there also has been clear spikes in vaccinations, and this is what will blunt the hospitalizations. If Alberta can get it's shit together despite their completely incompetent premier and health minister and focus on maintaining mask rules and getting as many people vaccinated as possible with a vaccine mandate of their own, perhaps they can hopefully blunt their looming hospital crisis that our idiot troll is furiously trying to ignore.

Still no word on the "ivermectin cure' for a billion plus in India. Can you imagine, being that incredibly gullible and stupid to fall for that?

Wow.
 

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What our resident troll isn't capable of understanding, is that it's less about the perfection of enforcement, and all about getting the majority of the unvaccinated convinced to get vaccinated. It was a gamble Macron took in France and it quite clearly paid off. The vaccination rates skyrocketed, even while the smaller group of idiots pretended they actually mattered to anyone protesting in the streets, huge numbers of people were getting vaccinated daily despite them. What has happened, which is likely to happen here in regions of high vaccination rates if they're any indication, as infection rates rise with the delta variant, it'll peak and hospitalization rates will go down as there are less idiots unvaccinated, because the data clearly shows without question the vast majority filling up hospitals, are unvaccinated. Period.

Here in Canada, where vaccine mandates have been announced there also has been clear spikes in vaccinations, and this is what will blunt the hospitalizations. If Alberta can get it's shit together despite their completely incompetent premier and health minister and focus on maintaining mask rules and getting as many people vaccinated as possible with a vaccine mandate of their own, perhaps they can hopefully blunt their looming hospital crisis that our idiot troll is furiously trying to ignore.

Still no word on the "ivermectin cure' for a billion plus in India. Can you imagine, being that incredibly gullible and stupid to fall for that?

Wow.
I wonder why the resident troll can’t just take the word of the doctors and nurses who work in the health care system that they’re almost out of room in the hospitals due to the influx of CoVid patients, mostly unvaccinated. They’re cancelling elective surgeries and the ICU bedspace is running out. Oh but it’s not a serious problem. Get ready for more windups courtesy of our own resident expert troll.
 

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Furiously spinning selected numbers, minimizing the pain of people with surgeries canceled falsely claiming ‘well it’s onkyndelayed a week they were already waiting a year!’ Or whatever hand waving this idiot engages in.

I think I may be right in that it’s mentally disturbed.
 
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