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The CIA's Family Jewels

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The CIA's Family Jewels

Agency Violated Charter for 25 Years,
Wiretapped Journalists and Dissidents


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Like, should we be surprised?
surprised, perhaps not. still appalled after all this time that this went on (and let alone continues to do so...) me thinks, un gros oui :(
Like, should we be surprised?
Of course we should.
C'mon, we are always told that those specious (or is it special) powers will not be abused.
I trust our government 100%.
I know that when I give out my information, it is treated in the most careful way possible.

Bring on biometrics as I have nothing to hide.

Heck, there must be some think wrong with Fluffy, cause she is on a no-fly list...
Like, should we be surprised?
Exactly.

Q: Why do dogs lick their balls?

A: Because they can.
Of course we should.
C'mon, we are always told that those specious (or is it special) powers will not be abused.
I trust our government 100%.
I know that when I give out my information, it is treated in the most careful way possible.

Bring on biometrics as I have nothing to hide.

Heck, there must be some think wrong with Fluffy, cause she is on a no-fly list...
Can't trust government, can't trust free enterprise. Welcome to reality. Positions based upon assuming one is more trustworthy than the other are at odds. But that's just one of those things where we agree to disagree on the details. ;)

The trick is in designing administrative conflict, whereby various groups have the incentive to play "gotcha!" against each other, while not creating a huge mess. There are some good models out there, but each situation requires a slightly different twist. As for things like the CIA, it is particularly challenging.

Oversight is needed but it cannot, by definition, be public. Partisan insanity would also not serve but "the people" need some route by which they influence the agencies. Heck even our RCMP, which does not have near the same reach or resources, is difficult to keep accountable.

Although not normally viewed the same as scientific invention, improvements in governance can have a far more important (and even economically larger) impact on a country than a brand new widget.
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Can't trust government, can't trust free enterprise. Welcome to reality. Positions based upon assuming one is more trustworthy than the other are at odds. But that's just one of those things where we agree to disagree on the details. ;)

The trick is in designing administrative conflict, whereby various groups have the incentive to play "gotcha!" against each other, while not creating a huge mess. There are some good models out there, but each situation requires a slightly different twist. As for things like the CIA, it is particularly challenging.

Oversight is needed but it cannot, by definition, be public. Partisan insanity would also not serve but "the people" need some route by which they influence the agencies. Heck even our RCMP, which does not have near the same reach or resources, is difficult to keep accountable.

Although not normally viewed the same as scientific invention, improvements in governance can have a far more important (and even economically larger) impact on a country than a brand new widget.
No wonder I like beer so much.... or is it single malt? Maybe it was fine wine...
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