How long untill someone post how they died for our freedom and values and other drivel?
Sadly, 6 More Soldiers Die In Afghan Bomb Blast
Six Canadian soldiers and an Afghan interpreter were killed Wednesday in a roadside bomb attack in southern Afghanistan, military officials said.
They were killed when their*armoured vehicle struck an improvised explosive device in the volatile Panjwaii district southwest of Kandahar, Brig.-Gen. Tim Grant told a news conference.
"We are greatly saddened by the loss of these great, young Canadians," said Grant, the commander of Canada's troops in Afghanistan.
The soldiers were returning to their forward operating base after conducting a joint operation with the Afghan National Army, said Grant. They were travelling in a convoy when their armoured NG-31 Nyala vehicle struck the bomb at about 11 a.m. local time.
http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2007/07/04/afghanistan-nato.html?ref=rss
They were killed when their*armoured vehicle struck an improvised explosive device in the volatile Panjwaii district southwest of Kandahar, Brig.-Gen. Tim Grant told a news conference.
"We are greatly saddened by the loss of these great, young Canadians," said Grant, the commander of Canada's troops in Afghanistan.
The soldiers were returning to their forward operating base after conducting a joint operation with the Afghan National Army, said Grant. They were travelling in a convoy when their armoured NG-31 Nyala vehicle struck the bomb at about 11 a.m. local time.
http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2007/07/04/afghanistan-nato.html?ref=rss
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Lt.-Col. Maria Carl, a spokesperson for the NATO-led International Security Assistance Force, said the community mourns the loss of the soldiers.
"They gave their lives to improve the lives of the Afghan people."
CBC.com
They did not die for our freedom, but they did die trying to help bring a sense of freedom and democracy to the Afghan people.
"They gave their lives to improve the lives of the Afghan people."
CBC.com
They did not die for our freedom, but they did die trying to help bring a sense of freedom and democracy to the Afghan people.
By imposing a narco-state? A puppet called Karzai?They did not die for our freedom, but they did die trying to help bring a sense of freedom and democracy to the Afghan people.
After 6 years, the country is going backwards. Maybe NATO should also say sorry for murdering 65 civilians last week.
This is our Vietnam.
Why not start a new thread for your bitterness and leave this one to honour these six who died doing what they believed was right?By imposing a narco-state? A puppet called Karzai?
After 6 years, the country is going backwards. Maybe NATO should also say sorry for murdering 65 civilians last week.
This is our Vietnam.
I agree with SINC, as much as I'm against this war, ArtistSeries you were not invited to bash this thread with something irrelevant to the mourning of six lives who died believing they're doing the right thing for the Afghan people. Shame on you.
I agree with Sinc as well. AS has a right to express his views, which is, in part, what these soldiers were trying to bring to the Afghan people. However, there is a time and place to express various views. This may be the time, but I don't feel it is the proper place. Paix, mes amis.
How do you know what they felt?Why not start a new thread for your bitterness and leave this one to honour these six who died doing what they believed was right?
Really? They are soldiers and they follow orders.
It's a fool's errand - and while I have sympathy for the soldiers, I have none for this mission.
You go to war, this is what happens - end of story.
There is no honour in what has happened, if you can't stomach this, maybe you should also ask to bring them home.
This is a quasi public thread so I don't see a problem in making posts related to the deaths. The thread is what we all make it, not just what the initial poster unverbally intends it to be.
I would never wish to speculate on soldiers beliefs or feelings about going to war or fighting a war in Iraq. I know from personal and family experience that many people join the military because they can't get any other types of work, or its the only way to pay for a higher education. For some the military can be a way out of poverty. For others, it's simply a way out.
Most of the major offensives of the Afghanistan war are long over. Why is it then that we have lost more Canadian lives since the Conservatives became the minority government and changed our mission?
Our role in Afghanistan needs to be changed. A sign of our progress there should be less Canadians dying, not more.
I would never wish to speculate on soldiers beliefs or feelings about going to war or fighting a war in Iraq. I know from personal and family experience that many people join the military because they can't get any other types of work, or its the only way to pay for a higher education. For some the military can be a way out of poverty. For others, it's simply a way out.
Most of the major offensives of the Afghanistan war are long over. Why is it then that we have lost more Canadian lives since the Conservatives became the minority government and changed our mission?
Our role in Afghanistan needs to be changed. A sign of our progress there should be less Canadians dying, not more.
My heart goes out to each family of those who were lost today. It's difficult to even imagine what they're going through.
:clap: :clap: :clap:This is a quasi public thread so I don't see a problem in making posts related to the deaths. The thread is what we all make it, not just what the initial poster unverbally intends it to be.
I think that when somebody opened a separate thread for the political debate on a shooting, it was a really good move. Was it runtheworldonmac? Either way, as with the occasional thread for a death of some public figure, it seems like the sensible thing. There's always room for the endless ehmac game of pin the tail on the ideology, but there is also plenty of room for parallel threads.
The lack of respect for the soldiers by trashing their efforts in this thread is abysmal and certainly not worthy of any applause.This is a quasi public thread so I don't see a problem in making posts related to the deaths. The thread is what we all make it, not just what the initial poster unverbally intends it to be.
The loss of life and the feelings of the family should rise above politics, but I guess some just can't grasp that concept.
I know what you mean. You might same the same thing about trashing Canada on Canada day. Oh wait... I'm still having a hissy fit.
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My first gut reaction when I hear of the soldiers deaths has nothing to do with politics. These were 6 Canadian men / or women who have been killed. Respect is warranted IMO.
However, the time-delay from sadness / respect to anger does happen fairly quickly for me as well.
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My first gut reaction when I hear of the soldiers deaths has nothing to do with politics. These were 6 Canadian men / or women who have been killed. Respect is warranted IMO.
However, the time-delay from sadness / respect to anger does happen fairly quickly for me as well.
Canada is not drafting people into the army. My brother is in the army reserves right now and is looking forward to being deployed early next year. Trust me ArtistSeries, these soldiers died doing something they believe in. They died serving Canadians, serving the world. Don't spit in their faces and tell us that they're merely robots following orders.
Rest in peace, soldiers, and condolences to their families and friends.
Rest in peace, soldiers, and condolences to their families and friends.
Nicely said.Canada is not drafting people into the army. My brother is in the army reserves right now and is looking forward to being deployed early next year. Trust me ArtistSeries, these soldiers died doing something they believe in. They died serving Canadians, serving the world. Don't spit in their faces and tell us that they're merely robots following orders.
Rest in peace, soldiers, and condolences to their families and friends.
Hey Sinc, I'm not going to say anything for or against the current endeavor in Afghanistan, everyone knows both mine and your position (which are clearly different).The loss of life and the feelings of the family should rise above politics, but I guess some just can't grasp that concept.
I was listening to something very interesting on CBC Radio this evening which made me think of your "Yellow" ribbon to support our troops. A commentator was saying how the "Yellow" ribbon is really a US import and that it had become a tool used by the Republican party to beat up on Democrats in the US.
My wife made a very interesting and astute comment... Why would we not use the Poppy as our symbol of support? Why do we need a "Yellow" ribbon?
The Canadian symbol for supporting our troops both past and present has been the Poppy.
I put this to you Sinc... Why not use the Poppy? Is the Canadian symbol for supporting our troops not good enough? Does it not convey enough meaning?
Thanks for the civil tone dj and yes, it is well known how we both have differing opinions about the mission.I put this to you Sinc... Why not use the Poppy? Is the Canadian symbol for supporting our troops not good enough? Does it not convey enough meaning?
That being said, the use of the yellow ribbon comes directly from the PPLI here in Edmonton who adopted it for their use in this area, as did many other units across Canada.
My neighbour, who is a Chief Warrant Officer with 20 years plus service and still volunteered to go to Afghanistan in the spring puts it this way.
The poppy is reserved especially for the Remembrance Day celebrations and honours all vets of all wars, but predominately those who perished during their time of service.
The yellow ribbon on the other hand, honours the service of all today's soldiers on active duty overseas, as well as those in training to replace them in the rotation. Since the vast majority of them return home, those who don't are then honoured with the poppy.
If that's good enough for Canadian troops, it's good enough for me and a very logical explanation for the use of the ribbon.
And you are correct. Of course ignorant fools will have their guesses based on ignorance...I was listening to something very interesting on CBC Radio this evening which made me think of your "Yellow" ribbon to support our troops. A commentator was saying how the "Yellow" ribbon is really a US import and that it had become a tool used by the Republican party to beat up on Democrats in the US.
This would be more apt for SINC: Red Friday - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
it is sad that you are such a bitter man that you continue to resort to name calling.And you are correct. Of course ignorant fools will have their guesses based on ignorance...
If you could read, you would see that I acknowledged the ribbon was "adopted" by the forces. The reason for its use came from a member of the unit who use it. Speaking of ignorance, when was the last time you spoke to a member of the PPLI to verify my story?
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