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A few weeks ago, phone lines and such were deregulated in Canada. Well, as I said, its' been a few weeks, and I just got my phone bill from Bell.

I was late paying my bill by a couple days, and got this:

$1.00 Regulated Late fee
$2.02 Deregulated late fee

What's with that!?!? :greedy: Whatever happened to 1.5% per annum? Granted yes I was late in paying, but this is just another gouge.

Is it time to finally switch or are they all coming up with these wonderful ideas? I'm happy with my service, but this felt more like a statement that they don't really appreciate my business.
 

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Speaking as a self-employed person with a small business, I certainly DO NOT appreciate clients that pay late anywhere near as much as I appreciate clients that pay on time.

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Thank you.

As a self-employed person with a small business, I can certainly understand someone being 2 days late, especially if they call and inform me of this, which is what I did. :)

My point is that Bell has gone from 1.5% per annum to over a flat $3. My concern is what else are they going to gouge us for?
 

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My bill has been consistently $22.95 for the past 2 years with Vonage, I'm so happy I switched from Hell Canada.
I've just heard and experienced recently, on the other end, too many negative things about Vonage, so although tempting, I don't think the price is enough to sway me.
 

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Crappy. However, just get in the habit of paying on time and you won't have the issue again in the future. Better yet, set up automated payments/automated withdrawals or charges directly from your bank account or credit card. Works for me. :)
 

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I feel you are all missing the point. I normally do pay on time.

My point is about the phone companies, and deregulation. My late fee is only one small example of what is to come.

Actually, there is something... Looking a little closer I noticed a network charge similar to what they throw on Cell phone bills. I've never seen this before:

1 Network Charge $5.95

You see! :(
 

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Deregulation does nothing for the consumer. Our utilities in Alberta were deregulated about four years back. This month's electricity rate, already at 300% more than pre-deregulation jumped another 50% in a single month. Shoot any politician who even mentions deregulation. ;)
 

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So Sinc,

How does the government benefit from deregulation? Do they get a cut of my network charge? Aren't they supposed to be helping the people they represent? (Ideal I know but really....)
 

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I cancelled my telephone service with Bell back in February. I still receive a monthly bill from them for $00. I telephone them every month and tell somebody in a call centre in India (usually takes some time to even explain why I'm calling - that I don't have a service with them) and each time they tell me they will stop. At least they've stopped sending me the on-line bill as of last month.
 

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Deregulation does nothing for the consumer. Our utilities in Alberta were deregulated about four years back. This month's electricity rate, already at 300% more than pre-deregulation jumped another 50% in a single month. Shoot any politician who even mentions deregulation. ;)
SINC... that's an opinion, frankly, that I never expected to hear from someone of your political...character. Any minute now you'll really throw me for a loop and agree that privatization has highly negative impacts upon society! ;)

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SINC... that's an opinion, frankly, that I never expected to hear from someone of your political...character. Any minute now you'll really throw me for a loop and agree that privatization has highly negative impacts upon society! ;)

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now if only we could get SINC to support the nationaliztion of petroleum
be still my heart...
 

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SINC... that's an opinion, frankly, that I never expected to hear from someone of your political...character. Any minute now you'll really throw me for a loop and agree that privatization has highly negative impacts upon society! ;)

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Some privatization is fine and improves service, access and price like the privatization of our liquor stores. Government store in Sask. last month for 24 beer was $43. Private store here, same brand, $28.
 

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Sure - and the highest rate of alcohol problems in the country - fine strategy that.
 

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Sure - and the highest rate of alcohol problems in the country - fine strategy that.
Once again, I ask you to provide proof of your supposition. Once again, A is not necessarily equal to B.

Are the alcohol problems directly related to the cost of alcohol? If so, please provide the proof.

Are you saying that if beer was $500/case, there would be less problems?

I recall legally purchasing beer for $3.75/dozen back in the '70's. Were there more alcohol problems back then when booze was relatively less expensive?

Perhaps the alcohol problems are related to some other demographic?
 

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Sure - and the highest rate of alcohol problems in the country - fine strategy that.
Even if true, you're still making implicitly socially/socialist conservative pronouncements (ie. inherent "moral" bad). For shame, MD.

It is not about maximising "virtue", as any old so-con chooses to define it.
 

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What MD forgets is that if you are among the vast majority of liquor store patrons in this province, the added convenience of privatization is incredible. In our city of 60,000, we used to have two government stores. The line ups were incredible every holiday weekend and at Christmas time, forget trying to get in.

Now with 14 smaller private stores, line ups are a thing of the past. Rarely have I ever even waited in line, but if I did it was only a couple of people in front of me. Our selection of fine wines is far and away superior to the days of government stores as adventurous independent owners have brought the world to our local shelves.

As for those who consume too much and make the stats MD loves to rub in our noses, they will be a proportionate problem in any given province, including, ahem, Ontario.

Bottom line is for the average law abiding, responsible imbibing Albertan, the new system has been a roaring and unqualified success.

But then again, not nearly as perfect as Ontario. ;)
 

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Well, if SK and MB have anywhere near the "problems" (read: so-cons defining morality) of AB then their models should be avoided too. If QC is not a wasteland of alcohol abuse and degradation, then perhaps corner stores should be able to stock alcohol. Oh the decisions!

On topic, I have the option of using a few different cellphone companies, the standard land line company, and some voip options based upon a couple high-speed internet offers. That service does not need to be regulated in the major cities. Much like long-distance calls 10+ years ago, it is time to move on.

And, considering how much people moan about Bell, I thought that they would like the beast opened up to some cutthroat competition.

As for small towns without the sorts of options described above, regulation can still be necessary.
 
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