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Truck plows into Bastille Day crowd in Nice, France, more than 70 believed dead



Dozens of people were killed in the French Riviera city of Nice late on Thursday when a truck plowed into crowds watching a fireworks display on France's Bastille Day national holiday.​

French TV channel BFM TV initially reported at least 30 people were killed as a crowd was celebrating.

The president of the Nice region, Christian Estrosi, said at least 60 are dead, though other reports later suggested the figure is as high as 73. Estrosi also said the truck was loaded with arms and grenades.​

(CBC)
 

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What is the difference between a ("lone wolf") terrorist and a ("lone wolf") random crazy or they, in fact, the same thing?
 

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Another very convenient attack. Happened on Bastille Day, in the very cradle of freedom just as the current martial law decree was set to expire. I did see somewhere that the fathers of freedom had already extended the decree.
 

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Let's see most of ISIS attacks have been directed at Syria, Iraq, Libya and Yemen. Nations already destabilized by Israeli allies. Somehow countries like Israel, Turkey and Saudi Arabia seem completely immune.

They conveniently publish videos that are clearly intended to smear our image of Muslims. Even so the neo-cons buy the lame-stream image.

If ISIS is controlled by "our" guys then the attacks on France make perfect sense. They are punishment for French diplomatic support of Palestine. Simple as that!
 

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Liberating rabbits in Australia, think twice.

Let's see most of ISIS attacks have been directed at Syria, Iraq, Libya and Yemen. Nations already destabilized by Israeli allies. Somehow countries like Israel, Turkey and Saudi Arabia seem completely immune.

They conveniently publish videos that are clearly intended to smear our image of Muslims. Even so the neo-cons buy the lame-stream image.

If ISIS is controlled by "our" guys then the attacks on France make perfect sense. They are punishment for French diplomatic support of Palestine. Simple as that!
Fascinating remarks, stuff to ponder upon!

Some counter remarks:

- Turkey has not been spared ISIS attacks unless those have all been staged to further the power of Erdogan. Which in the light of recent events does not sound so implausible anymore.
Very suspicious indeed.

- Libya and Iraq have indeed been destabilised by western forces, afterwards abandoned without aftercare. Thus leaving those countries destabilised.

Gruesome thought, but what if Saddam & Khadafi would still have been in power?

Obama has already conceded Libya was his greatest blunder.

Liberating rabbits in Australia comes to my mind: complete lack of analysis or foresight.
& trying to fix that blunder with myxomatosis.

- The Syrian civil war has been continuously ignored by the world, thus leaving it pray to ISIS.
What is really at stake in Syria?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qatar-Turkey_pipeline
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-Iraq-Syria_pipeline
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-secret-stupid-saudi-us-deal-on-syria/5410130
or simply Google: pipelines across syria

- Yemen has been destabilised by civil war for some time now. Saudi Arabia has been intervening, but to what end?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudi_Arabian-led_intervention_in_Yemen

- Saudi- Arabia, a so-called western ally, and quasi- untouchable, has been massively sponsoring their own brand of Islam across the world.
Going from the distribution of copies of the Koran, to sponsoring education and mosques.
All fair & well.

But do they finance ISIS or international terrorism as well? E.g.:
Saudi Arabia funds and exports Islamic extremism: The truth behind the toxic U.S. relationship with the theocratic monarchy - Salon.com

- Russia: they are embarrassed by a major gas pipeline of theirs running through Ukraine towards Europe. And frustrated by the Syrian pipeline deals, probably.

Well, gentlemen, does this look like a hornet's nest or doesn't it?
 

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This article from Russia Today (RT) cites the attacker's family as saying he had longstanding mental health issues:

“My brother had psychological problems, and we have given the police documents showing that he had been seeing psychologists for several years,” Rabeb Bouhlel, his sister, told Reuters.

“From 2002 to 2004 he had problems that led to a nervous breakdown,” his father Mohamed Mondher Lahouaiej Bouhlel told several French channels in an interview outside his home, while brandishing his son’s clinical evaluations before the cameras.

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“He’d get angry and shout and break everything around him. He was violent and very ill. We took him to the doctor and he was put on drugs. Whenever there was a crisis, we took him back again. He was always alone. Always silent, refusing to talk. Even in the street, he wouldn’t greet people.”

According to his father, after moving to France, Lahouaiej Bouhlel had “no connection with religion. He didn’t fast or keep Ramadan. He drank. He even took drugs.”

In what may not be a coincidence, the men responsible for the Paris attacks last November also had a similar history of dead-end jobs, petty crime, drinking, and gambling, before apparently rapidly converting to the Islamist cause just months before their deaths.

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His brother Jaber Bouhlel told the Daily Mail that the family received 240,000 Tunisian dinar (almost $110,000) from Mohamed in the past few weeks – a surprisingly large sum for a low-paid deliveryman.

“He used to send us small sums of money regularly like most Tunisians working abroad. But then he sent us all that money, it was fortune. He sent the money illegally. He gave cash to people he knew who were returning to our village and asked them to give it to the family,” said Jaber.​
 

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