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It took me a little while to get the hang of "seeing" what networks were out there, but once I figured it out we were on our way.

We headed down Broadway towards Simply Computing. Turns out there was four networks in their parking lot. 2 with passwords needed, 2 without!

So we continue onto burrard, then down to the condo towers onto Pacific...into Yaletown and then down Davie (some interesting network names there...if any of you know the area/demographic you know what I mean ;) then finally down by Coal Harbour.

Well at any given time within residential areas there were at least 4 networks going on at once. About maybe half the time they were password protected.

The BEST spot was at the newer condo towers where they have wireless networks setup in the buildings.

So it turns out that this is actually quite popular and VERY accessible! As I walked out of my car (in a single family house area near the Dunbar area) with my laptop open in hand, there were 3 networks available outside of my house! (Mine and one other open one...the third was passworded)

But what I was REALLY interested in was rendezvousing with someone. That never happened. No one ever popped on even though I ran into quite a few airport networks :(

Call me a dork..call me a geek....but I was just a skunked out bored student finding something different to do with my husband on a friday night.
 

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So you went WarDriving?

Congrats on having fun. One question, where you constantly checking the Airport menu bar or using an application like MacStumbler or iStumbler?
 

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geez. You know you're a geek when there is a name for the activity. WarDrving I was I guess.

Uh crap!! You mean there was an easier way??!! I didn't know there were programs to facilitate this! WelI I did it the hard way and had internet connect open and was constantly checking it.
 

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I had a fellow around here that had an open network and also had the settings of his router on the default Admin/Admin username and password. I thought about it for a few days, then I went in and changed his configurations and mentioned that he should try to secure his network more; and that I was a nice guy for doing this... he was lucky I did not go in and delete everything on his network..

Cheers,

RtC

P.S. His/her network never reappeared to me.. I guess they WEPed and do not brodcast the SSID anymore or they brought the thing back to FS saying it as defective.
 

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Yesterday in Toronto the police caught a pedophile that
was Wardriving around neighbourhoods in his car,
He had his pants to his knees and was using other peoples
wireless accounts to access kiddie porn websites.

The guy had a homemade antenna booster made from a
coffee can sticking out his car window attached to his
laptop on his lap.

I'd make sure your own wireless connection is secure,
You wouldn't want to get blamed for illegal access to sites
by other people that are sneaking into your connection.

Scary eh?

Dave :cool:
 

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I think this will "drive" more people to secure their WiFi set ups.

Wardriving sicko article. :rolleyes:

EDIT: Figures, Dave beat me to it... :D
 

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kps wrote:

EDIT: Figures, Dave beat me to it...
Yes...But you found the link to the article before I did.
The news report on T.V. was a little more detailed though.


CTV news report

Cheers!

Dave :cool:

[ November 22, 2003, 09:53 AM: Message edited by: dolawren ]
 

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Here's a stupid question.

How do you know if your system is protected?

I believe when I set up my wireless that I gave both the network and the basestation the same name and password.

Is this enough to prevent people from using my network?

How can I make sure that everything is secure? (I've never really bothered before)
 

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Pamela - Wireless isn't very secure in itself, in that WEP can be cracked in about 6 hours of collecting packets from the network.

However, since you most likely just want to stop other people from leeching your bandwidth, or accessing your network, the best thing I have to offer is to stop the base station to stop broadcasting it's SSID.

No SSID info, no one who randomly drives by can see it. So in essence your network is there, but in stealth mode. Enabling WEP is also suggested, and that will encrypt the signal. As with all security it can be broken if someone really wants in, but you said there were 2 other networks around your house, they would go for the easier targets.

So, for what you already have set-up, yes it is enough, as if you wanted a quick connection would you spend 6 hours cracking a password, or spend half a second connecting to an open network?

You can also enable MAC filtering, which only allows certain computers to connect. (Each networking component on your computer, (ethernet card, Airport, etc.) has its own MAC (Media Access Control) address.) Then with that much security, why would someone waste their time trying to crack into your network? There are easier places elsewhere.
 

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Pamela!

another vancouverite here, living downtown... do you have addresses/names of buildings to those areas? i'd love to take my ibook down there and check it out. (when it's not cold and raining.... so, that will be May.)

thanks!

Phil
 

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emceepj-I tell you...just start walking. They are EVERYWHERE downtown. You know the towers on Pacific? Start in there. Then there is yaletown...by the starbucks on homer and that side street that yaletown street brewery is on. But Pacific is your best bet since there are like 12,000 people living there.

Chealion-
So a recap.
Block base station's SSID
Enable WEP
Enable MAC filtering

Oh and p.s. Where do I find these settings? I went to my airport utility and couldn't find them and I don't know where else to look?

Now what do I do when I want to access another Mac's computer or another Mac computer wants to access mine? Say for file sharing in the same room or something. Or even another PC laptop user friend doing homework with me, needing my internet connection. Now that I have all this stuff blocking their access to my network, how do I "allow" them access?

Also, what about the firewall?
 

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That creep that got busted here in Toronto sent me running to secure my WiFi LAN.

I set up:
Static IPs, no DHCP
MAC filtering for my wireless Dell and Powerbook
WEP encryption (64 bit) although router capable of 128,256
and SSID blocking.

Pamela, all settings are done in the router config (usually accessed through your web browser) and in the Network Preference Panel.

I stumbled through this in about a hour and a half. I'm no expert, but it wasn't as difficult as it appears.

You'll need to mark down some settings for reference, MAC addresses, (Apple calls them Ethernet IDs), your router IP address, sub masks etc.

Be careful, and make sure at least one of your computers is always connected, as you may not be able to connect to the router if you change some settings.

If you want friends to connect, leave DHCP enabled and do not use MAC filtering.
 

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Pamela - In order for anyone to connect, just tell them the WEP password, and the name of the network. If you want to allow friends to easily connect, MAC filtering may be more of a hassle then needed.

I've never used the Airport Admin Utility, so unfortunatly I can't tell you exactly how.

But WEP should be called WEP or something along the lines of setting up a WEP Password.

While broadcasting the SSID, you'll want to search for something along the lines of either SSID or Network Name.
 

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In a year or two, I'm sure every square each of any major city will be covered by a wireless signal, just like cell phone coverage. For now, I'd be happy if my local Starbucks offered a wireless connect, I know some of them do.
 
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