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The Vietnam War was a horrific period in world history. Many people have heard of the My Lai massacre of vietnamese villagers by U.S. soldiers - but how many know that the massacre was a cover-up by those soldiers for mass rape of women and children as young as 10 years old? Horrific. History forgotten is history repeated...

My Lai, Sexual Assault and the Black Blouse Girl: Forty-Five Years Later, One of America’s Most Iconic Photos Hides Truth in Plain Sight



Looking back at the Vietnam war and the iconic photographs that mark that era, how is it that the American public knows about the “Napalm Girl” but no one knows or speaks of the My Lai “Black Blouse Girl?” And what does it mean that, forty-five years later, even though her experience was publicized by investigative reports and Congressional testimony, what happened to her – reflected in this famous photo – remains hidden in plain sight?

The My Lai Massacre captured public awareness largely due to the 1969 public release of graphic photographs taken by Army Photographer Ronald Haeberle. Since the release, viewers have been captivated by the visceral emotion expressed on the face of the woman in the foreground of the photo below (published in 1969 by Life magazine). According to Life’s caption of the photograph, these villagers were “huddle[ed] in terror moments before being killed by American troops at My Lai.”
By reading the image closely, you can see that the teenager in the right background is buttoning up her blouse. It’s a curious action. Why would she be preoccupied with a button while the other people in the photograph were terrified of being killed? Why was the button undone to begin with?

Testimony from the 1969-1979 Peers Inquiry solves the mystery of the button: the image actually captures these women and children in the moments between a sexual assault and mass murder.
...the older woman, who he presumed to be the girl’s mother, had been “biting and kicking and scratching and fighting off” the group of soldiers. The emotion on the face of the older woman in the foreground is not one of passive terror.

Once the soldiers noticed the photographer and journalist, they ceased the assault. Haeberle later recalled that after walking away, “I heard an M-60 [machine gun] go off, and when we turned back around, all of [the women] and the kids with them were dead.”
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Of all the dark moments in the war in Vietnam, this was one of the darkest. :-(

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And in January 31 it was 65 years from commie massacre in Hue - they mass murdered about 3000-6000 people - an usual behaviour of any communist regime.
 

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And in January 31 it was 65 years from commie massacre in Hue - they mass murdered about 3000-6000 people - an usual behaviour of any communist regime.
These don't count--they were killed by communists, who get a free pass.
 

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That's a really sad truth ...
It's sort of a weird reverse racism if you think about it. The "Western man" of America is held to a higher standard of conduct.
 

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Yes. Funny thing is how same lefties who defend communism (International Socialism) fight against Nazism (National Socialism) - similar extreme left wing movement ... They even call Nazism - extreme right movement - using old Stalin's lie from second half of 1941 ... (till then Nazis and Soviet commies were comrades in fight against western imperialism and USSR helped developed German tanks, air force and trained SS troops ...).
 

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And the typical thread-crappers make their appearance. lukasf, you want to talk about Hue? Start your own damn thread, I'll be happy to participate.

As for international socialism / national socialism / naziism / etc... evil men will do what they do, regardless of what label you put on it. Look at the "democracy" that supposedly exists in North America.

As for the dig at Che Guevara - I don't share that assessment. Nor, dare I say, do the majority of oppressed peoples and those who stray from the typical right-wing extremist sources. Feel free to toss in photos of stupid teenagers who wear him on their chest without having a clue about who he is and what he did - I have a somewhat deeper appreciation for the man.
 

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....thus beings the inevitable derailment of a thread... and people wonder why participation is down? The jerk factor in here is just too damn high.
 

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....thus beings the inevitable derailment of a thread... and people wonder why participation is down? The jerk factor in here is just too damn high.
Disagreement with your premise is not derailment. Sorry your thread didn't generate only the responses you expected.
 

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As for the dig at Che Guevara - I don't share that assessment.
That's because you didn't spent a part of your life under communist regime ... I grew up in the commie Czechoslovakia so I think I have a better knowledge about it ...
 

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Disingenuous, MacFury. My post was simply remembering the 45th anniversary of a horrible event. What "premise" are you and lukasf disagreeing with? Are you saying that it's alright for American troops to commit mass rape and then murder women and children?

You're not making any sense.
 

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That's because you didn't spent a part of your life under communist regime ... I grew up in the commie Czechoslovakia so I think I have a better knowledge about it ...
No. You do not. This is the thing with rabid anticommunists - you see the word "communist" and lose your freaking minds, drawing parallels where they do not exist. Cuban socialism and Eastern European socialism (and Vietnamese socialism and Chinese socialism, etc.) are not equivalents. All are born of their own specific historical circumstances. This is precisely why U.S. foreign policy toward Cuba has been a massive failure - it assumed that Cuban communists were simply tropical Russians. Sadly, that's the depth of much "analysis" that comes out of Washington.

And thanks again for crapping on my thread on a completely unrelated topic. Way to contribute to the community here.
 

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Are you saying that it's alright for American troops to commit mass rape and then murder women and children?
Of course not. Just noting that you're very selective about which massacres you choose to remember.
 

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No. You do not. This is the thing with rabid anticommunists - you see the word "communist" and lose your freaking minds, drawing parallels where they do not exist. Cuban socialism and Eastern European socialism (and Vietnamese socialism and Chinese socialism, etc.) are not equivalents.
They are maybe not equivalents ... but they end with same thing - mass murdering their own people ...
 

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Of course not. Just noting that you're very selective about which massacres you choose to remember.
This is a typical for leftie "intellectuals" ... Lenin and Stalin called them a useful idiots ... Funny thing is that every time when commies got to power those were one of the first ones to be eliminated (aka murdered).
 

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Of course not. Just noting that you're very selective about which massacres you choose to remember.
Ah - sorry! My fault, I see it now. Somehow I missed the fact that I've been appointed the person at EhMac who must post remembrances of all historical events past, present and - dare I say - future!

Since I am in no way infringing on your or anyone else's ability to post threads remembering any in/significant even that occurred, I suggest you have at it. But crapping on my thread because this particular event doesn't turn your crank isn't being a constructive member of the community.

You, and people like you, have torn down the fabric of congeniality and respectful discourse that we have always strived for here. For many months now your antisocial efforts have born fruit. People leave. People bitch about one another. The "ignore" function is so overworked it's glowing red.

Take a moment and re-read this amazing short derailment. Look for the moment it went off the rails. Be honest with yourself about your role in taking this thread to a place it was never intended to go. And stop ****ing wasting my time.

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This is a typical for leftie "intellectuals" ... Lenin and Stalin called them a useful idiots ... Funny thing is that every time when commies got to power those were one of the first ones to be eliminated (aka murdered).
Gee. I'm so sorry that I got an edjumakashun. How horrible of me.

Fidel Castro was right - history will absolve him, and his compatriots.

As for "mass murder" - look, pal. I've gone through this crap with the late MacNutt more times than I care to remember. I still have bruises from banging my head against the wall at the inanities offered by those who refuse to take an objective look at history and instead proceed based upon false equivalences and outright falsehoods. Feel free to search ehMac's archives for our discussions on Cuba.

Now, would anyone care to give a ****ing comment on My Lai, or is keeping to topic too much to ask?
 
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