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Alleged Leaked Internal Apple Document Shows Upcoming Mac Pro 7.1 Refresh, Codenamed Phoenix




Here’s an alleged image of the upcoming Mac Pro 7.1 refresh from an internal Apple presentation slide. Labeled “Mac Pro 7.1” and codenamed “Phoenix,” it shows a square design that measures in at 7.7 x 11.55 x 11.55 inches, comes equipped with an Intel Xeon W Cascade Lake-X processor, an Apple T2 security chip, an “Apple X2 Accelerator,” AMD Firepro-X memory, as well as DD45 SO-DIMM memory. Will this be the hardware shown at WWDC 2019? You’ll have to tune in on June 3rd. Read more to see the full slide.

“As far as other specifications, the Mac Pro is said to come with eight Thunderbolt 3 ports with ‘Thunderbolt 4’ compatibility, two HDMI 2.1 ports and support for 10-gigabit Ethernet and Bluetooth 5.1. The new Mac Pro is also expected to adopt a stackable module system. The only required module would be the “brain,” which will likely contain the logic board and other critical components. Everything else, such as additional storage, memory and upgraded GPUs, could be addable in optional modules,” reports iDropNews.

 

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based on those size specs that is pretty small, guess no room for more then 2 hard drives? Going to be pretty tight inside if you have 2 GPU's in there plus RAM and hard drive. OR is Apple again going for external storage and going to make a similar mistake as the garbage can Mac Pro?

Bring back the G5 tower again, that still looks fantastic, super easy to work on/in, lots of room and wonderfully well thought out. Is Apple just to full of themselves now to think they need to constantly re-invent the wheel? With no visionary leading the company I have little faith with the current leadership.

That screen on the other hand looks amazing from a visual stand point. Apple really needs to refresh the iMac to seriously slim down that bevel.
 

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Best guess is Apple assumes everyone will be using SSD drives exclusively.

Agreed that an expanded mini is not what many of us are looking for.

I consider the T2 chip a negative, but am guessing we won't be given a choice.
 

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Best guess is Apple assumes everyone will be using SSD drives exclusively.

Agreed that an expanded mini is not what many of us are looking for.

I consider the T2 chip a negative, but am guessing we won't be given a choice.
Good point, not sure why I did not think of SSD. I know I have switched over my personal PC to SSD and my iMac 5K has a 1tb flash drive and MacBook Pro has 512 gig flash. I do believe it is the future as it makes a HUGE difference all across the board.

I guess if it has room for 2 GPU's, RAM and 4 or 5 bays for SSD it would not be all that bad. Not sure how much of the pro community has embraced SSD for storage.
 

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don't forget the 8 T-bolt ports.

I think until external/internal storage/flash drives/SSD drives find a standardization/affordable price/or companies adopt one format, then things will be hit and miss for a lot of folks.

Personally, I would like HDs to be resemble the old ZIP drives that one could slide in and out of computers like floppy disks. Have a small internal drive for the OS and apps but bring back some sort of removable portable storage.

Pismos with hot swapping bays, CD/ZIP/floppy/extra battery were the best and most flexible machine ever. Loved mine and was sad to see it go.
 

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Good point, not sure why I did not think of SSD. I know I have switched over my personal PC to SSD and my iMac 5K has a 1tb flash drive and MacBook Pro has 512 gig flash. I do believe it is the future as it makes a HUGE difference all across the board.

I guess if it has room for 2 GPU's, RAM and 4 or 5 bays for SSD it would not be all that bad. Not sure how much of the pro community has embraced SSD for storage.
Other than boot times and launching the never used MS Office apps I did not notice any real difference running an SSD on my older MacPro 4,1. However I have disabled Stoplight and do not use TimeMachine, both apps are notorious for slowing HD response. Also the old SATA II connection on my MacPro falls short of fully utilizing an SSD's potential.
 

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I could live with that (but I suspect it's a total fake)... but then again who has a cool 7K laying around?
 

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don't forget the 8 T-bolt ports.

I think until external/internal storage/flash drives/SSD drives find a standardization/affordable price/or companies adopt one format, then things will be hit and miss for a lot of folks.

Personally, I would like HDs to be resemble the old ZIP drives that one could slide in and out of computers like floppy disks. Have a small internal drive for the OS and apps but bring back some sort of removable portable storage.

Pismos with hot swapping bays, CD/ZIP/floppy/extra battery were the best and most flexible machine ever. Loved mine and was sad to see it go.
Apple had it pretty close with the Intel Power Macs. They could have done a tray, not sure if there are any cons to the style when just sliding it in to connect opposed to be screwed in firmly.

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eTy3NHqEpw[/ame]

The Power Macs with the funky designs that came out under Steve Jobs were way ahead of their time. Super easy to open and work on, no clutter, wiring perfectly hidden away. They had pro use in mind unlike anything Apple has come out with under Tim Cook
 

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true but the cylinder mac pro must have been started when SJ was still around. Wonder why he let it progress?
The cheese grater was the best design for a computer ever. Very user friendly and highly upgradable.

Wish I could get a better graphics card for my 2009 model as I believe it has a lot of life left in it. 512mb is not enough for todays workload.
 

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I guess if it has room for 2 GPU's, RAM and 4 or 5 bays for SSD it would not be all that bad.

Only if it is all READILY ACCESSIBLE, otherwise it'll be a fail. Again!!!


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true but the cylinder mac pro must have been started when SJ was still around. Wonder why he let it progress?

Probably because, just like the Power Mac G4 Cube, it probably reminded Steve of some good times and was also reminiscent of the NeXTcube from NeXT, and besides which, His Highness Sir Jonathan Ive was Steve's golden boy.


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true but the cylinder mac pro must have been started when SJ was still around. Wonder why he let it progress?
The cheese grater was the best design for a computer ever. Very user friendly and highly upgradable.

Wish I could get a better graphics card for my 2009 model as I believe it has a lot of life left in it. 512mb is not enough for todays workload.
Good point.

Steve Jobs did have some duds as well, he was not perfect by any means. The G4 Cube as mentioned is a good example. Neat little computer but not what pro users wanted. Apple had options though, the G4 Cube was not a replacement for the PowerMacs, it was a powerful little computer for someone who wanted that power in a smaller form factor that was not all that practical. An example of design over function.

How many years has it been since the trashcan was released and deemed a failure? 5 or 6 years and all Apple has done is come out with an iMac Pro? No real vision or direction there, just cram way better specs into an iMac. Sure it is impressive but they did not even change the design of the iMac to modernize it with a small bezel.
 

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Only if it is all READILY ACCESSIBLE, otherwise it'll be a fail. Again!!!


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I agree completely. It could be done with a smaller form factor with the assumption that all the internal drives would be SSD. That is not unlike Apple to push ahead like this. First to get rid of CD drives and disk drives in general. The future is SSD I believe, smaller, faster, just more expensive at the moment.
 

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I agree completely. It could be done with a smaller form factor with the assumption that all the internal drives would be SSD. That is not unlike Apple to push ahead like this. First to get rid of CD drives and disk drives in general. The future is SSD I believe, smaller, faster, just more expensive at the moment.
Of course that part is right up Apple's alley.
 

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Of course that part is right up Apple's alley.
Yes, but in the case of hard drives... removable and user replaceable hard drives this does not give Apple a bunch of money unless someone is foolish enough to buy Apple branded hard drives.
 

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Yes, but in the case of hard drives... removable and user replaceable hard drives this does not give Apple a bunch of money unless someone is foolish enough to buy Apple branded hard drives.

It does and will if Apple again provides the only hard drives that will fit and work with Apple Proprietary connections!!!


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It does and will if Apple again provides the only hard drives that will fit and work with Apple Proprietary connections!!!


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Guess we will just have to wait and see now. I am not a fan of Apples current direction as I have said numerous times, but I like to think, or at least hope they are not THAT far gone.
 

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Well, check out the new Mac Pro. It"ll cost you but will it be expandable or will it be expandable?
Also check out its BTO vid card:

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/design-visualization/quadro/

Respect once more, Apple!

Respect what? There is no official announcement and the image from the OP might be fake.

The thing people want from a Mac Pro is the ability to expand how YOU want. Want 4 hard drives internal? Sure. What to swap out the GPU? Sure. Easily add more RAM? no problem. Apple has not done this since the discontinued the Intel Power Macs. They have moved to completely enclosed systems. The only computers that were simple to upgrade was the Mac Mini and not sure about the new ones, think the RAM might be soldered on now? Could be wrong on that. I know the 27" iMac lets you change the RAM easily, but thats it.

In the past you could go into a MacBook/Pro easily change the hard drive and the RAM as you saw fit. These are just some basic things that are no longer options. And once purchased Apple does not support any upgrades to the device you wanted. If Apple has its way and you buy a MacBook Pro with 128 gig hard drive and you decide you want more storage well you need to buy a WHOLE NEW MacBook Pro with bigger drive because Apple will not even service it themselves and let you pay to upgrade just that.
 
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