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It's a scam - you will get 100% illegal software for your money.
 

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What Gt said. Read their FAQ too - it's reasonably funny. In one part they explain that their prices are so low because you don't have to pay for fancy packaging and because you don't have to pay for a license.
 

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So back to my original question:

Does anyone know? I mean REALLY know.

Compusmart had ilife on sale for $49.00; that software is usually listed at $89.00 so it was close to half price. Does that automatically mean it's illegal?

And Apple made software available in the past where there was no license involved and no manufacturer support, but it was still legal software.

And since one can pay by credit card, I would expect the software to show up - otherwise you just do a charge-back.

But the main thing that struck me - if it is illegal, why has Microsoft or the other software vendors not just shut them down? It's not as if they are operating in the bowels of the net. I got this link in an email, just like the other Spam I occasionally get.

I know, the prices seem to be 'too good to be true', but charging in excess of $1000 for a piece of software, which is where the list prices of many of these programs sit, is also ridiculous for consumer versions.
 

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Good grief KRS, what do you want to hear? Yes, it's legal? Five people say it's illegal, but you still aren't convinced?

You are looking for justification to save a boat load of money on software of dubious legality.

How can we possibly spell it out for you to make it any clearer.

THIS IS ILLEGAL SOFTWARE!

Read their FAQ:
you do not receive a fancy package, a printed manual and license that actually aggregate the largest part of the retail price
That whole "You Don't Get A License" thing? Ya, that means no serial number to activate the program, no nothing. You are downloading a CD rip.
 

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So back to my original question:

Does anyone know? I mean REALLY know.

I got this link in an email, just like the other Spam I occasionally get.
I think you answered your own question. BTW hope you did not send your bank info to that guy in Nigeria.;)
 

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It's not as if they are operating in the bowels of the net. I got this link in an email, just like the other Spam I occasionally get.
Ladies and Gentlemen, we have found the culprit! It's krs who is clicking on those links in SPAM email! He's the 3.5% of internet users who validate junk mail! He's to blame for the never-ending flood of "enlarge-your-penis" offers!

I'm thinking... Monty Python's "Life of Brian" stoning scene would be apropos here...

:D
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You know - the replies I read indicate that some of you have not even looked at the web site.
I grant you, something is fishy, but suggesting it's a Nigerian scam is way off base.
To start with, the English is flawless as far as I can see (the language and spelling is always a dead give-away on those) - and I have yet to see a Nigerian scammer who accepts Visa and Mastercard.
And as far as not being able to use the software at all because "you don't get a serial number" - how long do you think Visa and Mastercard would tolerate such a merchant?

BTW - my original post was just a hypothetical question. I'm not even interested in any of the software they offer - just struck me that they have Mac software listed, not just Windows.
 

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KRS, sometimes you have to accept what people are telling you. This is one of those times. Your last post indicates you are STILL looking for some kind of validation.

The English is flawless as far as I can see...and as far as not being able to use the software at all because "you don't get a serial number" - how long do you think Visa and Mastercard would tolerate such a merchant?
Abraham Lincoln said it best:
'Tis better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.
 

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You call this flawless English :eek:
Willing to provide our customers with quality and moderate products and positive experience of purchasing via the Internet, we are representing this MoneyBack policy to ensure your complete satisfaction from the purchase. The full credit will be issued in the following cases:

You are not able to download the software due to computer problems,
You do not need the software by any reason and have not downloaded it yet,
You are having problems during installation which can not be resolved by our Customer Service or Technical Service representatives, the software you have purchased does not function correctly,
Other reason which is supposed to be essential by our Customer Service.
Besides we reserve the right to reverse the transaction without prior notification in the following cases:
In 10-days term there were no attempts to download recorded, In indisputable way if we have reasons to doubt about the transaction legitimacy, etc.

The full credit will NOT be issued if:
your computer does not meet the minimal system requirements for the software product purchased. By making a purchase you confirm that you have read and learned the basic system requirements for the product, available on our site.
the user is unable to understand, install and utilize the software because of a lack of knowledge of the basic computer functions. All software is sold with the joint understanding that the customer possesses a basic knowledge of computer systems and software functionality.
Partial refunds cannot be issued due to technical peculiarities of the processing center.

By making a purchase the user agrees to have a general idea of the software product basic tasks and functions. The Store shall not be responsible for any damage caused by the software product due to the lack of this knowledge.

At Downloadable Software we promise that our software will perform as to your expectations, and we stand behind that promise with a money-back guarantee! All your claims please address to our Customer Service on the 'Contact us' page.
Sounds like off shore asian

You will find the detailed manual for using of your type of files.
Following the steps of such instructions precisely you will feel no difficulties
It's an additional mean of authentication of your credit card.
Give it up - not only will you perhaps not even get a download you've given up your CC info.

No other payment methods are available.
Gophers like this are popping up on Craigslist everyday and we play whackamole sending them away.
 

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How hard is this to figure out?

Domain name: kruoemi.com
Registrant Contact: - Alex Rodrigez
[email protected]
+358-30-5563
fax: po box 445
Laapentranta Laapentranta 12700 fi

Administrative Contact: Alex Rodrigez
[email protected] +358-30-5563
fax: po box 445
Laapentranta Laapentranta 12700 fi

Technical Contact: Alex Rodrigez
[email protected] +358-30-5563
fax: po box 445
Laapentranta Laapentranta 12700 fi

Billing Contact: Alex Rodrigez
[email protected] +358-30-5563
fax: po box 445
Laapentranta Laapentranta 12700 fi
DNS: ns1.sobaka-soft.com
ns2.sobaka-soft.com
Created: 2007-05-16 Expires: 2008-05-16
The reason Alex (if that is his real name, not likely) nor his ISP or domain registrar are being sued right now, probably, is that Microsoft and Adobe and the rest are suing people who have left even less of a legal trail, and registered their fake businesses in North America. Very likely their Finnish legal team is working on something else.

But they would love it if you brought Alex, or whoever is using Alex's name, to their attention.

So Microsoft and the rest are also too busy suing your 80 year old grandmother and 7 year old nephew, because they live in Moose Jaw or Poughkeepsie, and are easier to reach.

There you go.

Most of the time credit card theft and identity theft isn't really stealing: it's more like a gift. Since we know very well you could create this site in 5 minutes, and for a few dollars have it hosted on the internet in the out-of-legal-reach country of your choosing, why consider even for a minute promoting them or, god forbid, sharing personal information with them?

This site was created on May 16, 2007. "Alex" could be creating 10 such sites a day, in each of 10 countries. Sure they look legitimate. So does "Barone Sanitation." Well, you get the idea.
 

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Most of the time credit card theft and identity theft isn't really stealing: it's more like a gift.

Sadly this is too true.
 

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@ HowEver -

Thanks, where do you go to get the domain info?
I tried Whois.net and a couple of others I found on google yesterday and got nowhere. This is what came up:



@ MacDoc - well, Ok - not flawless but pretty good. I have seen a lot worse on legitimate North American websites
 

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Read the FAQ, do you really want software that you won't get any support from the company that made it? That potentially means no updates as well. They also don't sell Mac software - should be another hint.
 

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Read the FAQ, do you really want software that you won't get any support from the company that made it? That potentially means no updates as well. They also don't sell Mac software - should be another hint.
Kosh -

They do sell Mac software - in fact the link I posted takes you right to their Mac software offerings. If they didn't sell mac software, I wouldn't even have posted this.

As to support? Well, I needed support the odd time on software that I bought at top dollar through a legitimate dealer, but in most cases I get no reply to support questions or the reply just points to the FAQ's on the software manufacturers website or you get a bunch of generic instructions - like restart, repair permissions, that type of thing.
To get really good and knowledgable support, the best bet is either right here or on the software manufacturers forum if there is such a thing.
 
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