Install eMac gray 10.2.4 OS X on ibook G3

gln said:

Will I have any problem installing OS X 10.2.4 gray eMac install CD on my G3 iBook?
I got the install disks on eBay.
G3 iBook now running OS 9.2.2 - 10GB hardive - 320MB ram.

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Good possibility. Mac OS X install discs that are supplied with a Mac normally only allow installation on that model. That being said, I can't remember when that practice started, so it's possibly it doesn't apply to 10.2.4. You'll know as soon as you try to install it and there's really no risk in trying. It'll either let you install or it won't. My guess is it won't.

My guess is it won't.

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Likewise.

Both the HD and RAM on the iBook are minimal for any version of OSX. That said I would prefer a stripped down version of Panther (go 10.3.8 not 10.3.9) Remove or do not install Garage Band, iMovie, iDVD and associated files. It should run fine.

I am sure you will find that Panther runs faster and boots faster than Jaguar on the eMac as well as the iBook.

BTW if the iBook has a working Firewire port you can connect it to the eMac as a target drive and install OSX Jaguar directly from the CD.

No to 10.3.9 ???

eMacMan said:

Both the HD and RAM on the iBook are minimal for any version of OSX. That said I would prefer a stripped down version of Panther (go 10.3.8 not 10.3.9) Remove or do not install Garage Band, iMovie, iDVD and associated files. It should run fine.

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I'm curious why not a stripped down version of 10.3.9 ???

Thanks,
Gerry

gln said:

I'm curious why not a stripped down version of 10.3.9 ???

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Some users reported instability and other issues when they upgraded to 10.3.9 at the time, so a majority of the Mac community has labeled 10.3.9 as less reliable than 10.3.8, which is why many recommend stopping at that version if running Panther. Personally, however, I've never had an issue with 10.3.9 on any Mac I ever installed it onto or used running that particular version. Essentially, 10.3.8 is considered the 'fail-safe' version of Panther.

gln said:

Will I have any problem installing OS X 10.2.4 gray eMac install CD on my G3 iBook?
I got the install disks on eBay.
G3 iBook now running OS 9.2.2 - 10GB hardive - 320MB ram.

Thanks for the information.

Gerry

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Hi,

You would probably have to create a disk image of the install disc and then modify the OSInstall.dist file found in System/Installation/Packages/OSInstall.mpkg/Contents.

Pain.

I'd go for 10.3 (Panther) over 10.2 (Jaguar). I installed 10.2.8 on an iBook 233Mhz (Clamshell) and it was incredibly slow. I then installed 10.3.9 on it and the speed improvement was remarkable. 4GB hard drive meant I didn't install iDVD, X11, any other languages, or printer drivers. The iBook is still a daily driver for my buddies mom after a year with OS X and she hasn't had a problem with it.

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gln said:

I'm curious why not a stripped down version of 10.3.9 ???

Thanks,
Gerry

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Most of the problems with 10.3.9 related to Classic applications as well as some major networking headaches. If you are not using Classic and are not part of a major network 10.3.9 should be OK. One other thought is that Apple has sent out a lot OS security patches for 10.3.9 that are not required on older versions. For these reasons I suggest sticking with 10.3.8 unless you have an application that requires a later OS (Flip4Mac).

eMacMan said:

One other thought is that Apple has sent out a lot OS security patches for 10.3.9 that are not required on older versions. For these reasons I suggest sticking with 10.3.8 unless you have an application that requires a later OS (Flip4Mac).

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You sure it's not that Apple is only supporting those security patches on the latest version? By holding back, you're likely running a less secure version of the OS.

madgunde said:

You sure it's not that Apple is only supporting those security patches on the latest version? By holding back, you're likely running a less secure version of the OS.

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There were A LOT of differences between 10.3.8 and 10.3.9. Essentially 10.3.9 was Tiger without the mandatory indexing and without Dashboard. Crucial fixes have gone back as far as Jaguar. Maybe I am just paranoid but the feeling I get is that 10.3.9 and Tiger opened up some security gaps that Apple is still trying to plug.

eMacMan said:

There were A LOT of differences between 10.3.8 and 10.3.9. Essentially 10.3.9 was Tiger without the mandatory indexing and without Dashboard. Crucial fixes have gone back as far as Jaguar. Maybe I am just paranoid but the feeling I get is that 10.3.9 and Tiger opened up some security gaps that Apple is still trying to plug.

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Somehow I doubt that assertion that 10.3.9 is more Tiger than Panther. The size of the 10.3.9 update would be enormous, which it isn't, it's only 51MB. I'm not sure where you got that idea that 10.3.9 is essentially Tiger without the indexing and Dashboard.

Once Apple moves on to a new major OS release, I think it's common practice for them to only support the latest revision of the previous major release, in effect requiring you to have the latest version in order to be able to use some of their software. This saves them on support costs because they only have to code and test their updates against one revision.