Idol Gives Back - What A Load Of Bunk

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guytoronto

Discussion Starter · Apr 25, 2007

So tonight and tomorrow night, American Idol is "giving back" by sending proceeds to help Africa.

What a load of bunk. Why do people feel it necessary to constantly throw money at a problem that we can't fix?

Want to solve the problems in Africa?

1) Overthrow their corrupt governments
2) Bring back DDT to greatly reduce the mosquito/malaria problem
3) Educate the hell out of the people

Sorry American Idol. You're not helping to solve any real problems.

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SINC

· #2 · Apr 25, 2007

Given that American Idol is just for teenyboppers anyway, it's not much of an issue.

monokitty

· #3 · Apr 25, 2007

Why do people feel it necessary to constantly throw money at a problem that we can't fix?

Because society appreciates effort, not results.

MacDoc

· #4 · Apr 25, 2007

Sure

math challenged??........10¢ PER VOTE!!!!!

voting numbers run in the 40 million each week ....likely far higher tonight..get you heads out your ass and know what what you are talking about.

The Malaria Net program alone is incredible. You should be ashamed at your attitude to an effort that will raise millions of dollars for worthwhile well established efforts in both Africa and America.

......in two hours.

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SINC

· #5 · Apr 25, 2007

MacDoc said:
voting numbers run in the 40 million each week ....likely far higher tonight..get you heads out your ass and know what what you are talking about.

Uh oh, we've raised the ire of the learned one who likes teenybopper stuff. Duck everyone, he's resorted to swearing and tossing little round red symbols of rage.

The Doug

· #6 · Apr 25, 2007

I can't stand American Idol but if the effort results in a few dollars going towards worthy causes, I commend it.

Demosthenes X

· #7 · Apr 25, 2007

guytoronto said:
What a load of bunk. Why do people feel it necessary to constantly throw money at a problem that we can't fix?

Want to solve the problems in Africa?

So, is it fixable or not?

IMO, any effort to raise money and awareness is good.

guytoronto

Discussion Starter · #8 · Apr 25, 2007

MacDoc said:
Sure

math challenged??........10¢ PER VOTE!!!!!

voting numbers run in the 40 million each week ....likely far higher tonight..get you heads out your ass and know what what you are talking about.

The Malaria Net program alone is incredible. You should be ashamed at your attitude to an effort that will raise millions of dollars for worthwhile well established efforts in both Africa and America.

......in two hours.

Ya! $5 million dollars! That'll help! :lmao:

Get serious. $5 million will do NOTHING to solve the problem. But I guess some people just like that cozy feeling of "I did something".

Demosthenes X said:
So, is it fixable or not? IMO, any effort to raise money and awareness is good.

It is fixable, but not by throwing money at the problem. I've already stated what three steps are required to change things.

Have doubts? Just take a look at how far we've come in 20 years:

We Are the World - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
USA for Africa - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The considerable profits from the enterprise went to the USA for Africa Foundation, which used them for the relief of famine and disease in Africa; critics, however, claim that this money went directly to the (often military) governments of the affected countries rather than the people.

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Macfury

· #9 · Apr 25, 2007

Guy: Maybe we can have the American Idol folks do a "Hands Across America!"

guytoronto

Discussion Starter · #10 · Apr 25, 2007

Macfury said:
Guy: Maybe we can have the American Idol folks do a "Hands Across America!"

Why not?

The event raised nearly $20 million, far short of its $50 million goal, and critics branded the event a failure, as total costs exceeded $17 million.

Hands Across America - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

zoziw

· #11 · Apr 25, 2007

This is clearly some goodwill advertising for Idol but even a few million is better than nothing.

ehMax

· #12 · Apr 25, 2007

guytoronto said:
So tonight and tomorrow night, American Idol is "giving back" by sending proceeds to help Africa.

What a load of bunk. Why do people feel it necessary to constantly throw money at a problem that we can't fix?

Want to solve the problems in Africa?

1) Overthrow their corrupt governments
2) Bring back DDT to greatly reduce the mosquito/malaria problem
3) Educate the hell out of the people

Sorry American Idol. You're not helping to solve any real problems.

The opinion in you post is bunk... and tired....not worth arguing. :yawn:

guytoronto

Discussion Starter · #13 · Apr 25, 2007

ehMax said:
The opinion in you post is bunk... and tired....not worth arguing. :yawn:

Yes, because we've had such success in Africa, that we MUST keep marching forward. Either that, or some people live in a delusional bubble.

Macfury

· #14 · Apr 25, 2007

Pssss-s-t, Guy:

http://www.alertnet.org/db/blogs/1265/2007/02/9-194956-1.htm

Bono rebrands "sexy" Africa
09 Mar 2007 19:50:00 GMT
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He's at it again. Bono's never-ending efforts to save Africa are about to get a new lease of life as the U2 singer prepares to guest-edit the July issue of American magazine Vanity Fair, focusing on the African continent, writes The New York Times.

The move may achieve some much needed face-saving for his RED campaign, which lets consumers give a percentage of a special red Amex card bill or proceeds from trendy goods such as a red Armani watch to the Global Fund to Fight AIDS, Tuberculosis and Malaria. It turns out the much-touted campaign has so far spent $100.3 million on marketing and raised just $17.4 million for the fund, according to Britain's Daily Mail.

"Africa is sexy and people need to know that," The New York Times quotes Bono as saying. "We've got to get better at telling the success stories of Africa in addition to the horror stories."

ehMax

· #15 · Apr 25, 2007

guytoronto said:
Yes, because we've had such success in Africa, that we MUST keep marching forward. Either that, or some people live in a delusional bubble.

Educate yourself and read more on the subject. Lots of problems, but huge, enormous successes being made by organizations such as the Global Fund, DATA, and others.

guytoronto

Discussion Starter · #16 · Apr 25, 2007

It turns out the much-touted RED campaign has so far spent $100.3 million on marketing and raised just $17.4 million for the fund, according to Britain's Daily Mail.

Wow! Spectacular! :clap:

Imagine what could be accomplished if we stopped shoveling crap and actually cared about solving the problems.

ehMax

· #17 · Apr 25, 2007

Macfury said:
Pssss-s-t, Guy:

http://www.alertnet.org/db/blogs/1265/2007/02/9-194956-1.htm

ehMax

· #18 · Apr 25, 2007

guytoronto said:
Wow! Spectacular! :clap:

Imagine what could be accomplished if we stopped shoveling crap and actually cared about solving the problems.

There are a lot of people / organizations who do care and who don't have the attitude of "a problem that we can't fix?" This takes a lot of things, one of them is money.

As I suggested, educate yourself a little to what these organization are doing and the progress they are making.

absolutetotalgeek

· #19 · Apr 25, 2007

This takes a lot of things, one of them is money.

What it takes is people who are willing to look at and address the real cause and issues, which is something sadly that not many will do.

It's a lot like street and gang related crime, everyone knows what the solution is - no one says it out loud.

You can throw all the money you want at Africa and nothing will change, thinking it will is just delusional.

guytoronto

Discussion Starter · #20 · Apr 25, 2007

With the trillions of dollars America is using to try to reform Iraq, they could have done the same for South Africa, a lot more effectively.

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