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You know, I don't bitch and complain about apple stuff. Even if something is a little iffy (like how hugely lacking mac os mail is)...but I have to say that iphoto is probably one of the worst programs I have ever had to use in my entire computing life.

I'm not even going to bother listing all of the problems I've had with it. I guess what I'd like to know is, am I the ONLY that seems to have problems with it?? Or is everyone long past my loyalty and they have moved onto a different program? And if so, WHAT are these programs!?
 

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It would really help to list some of the problems you've had with it, so we know what you don't like about it.
 

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I detest iPhoto as well. GraphicConverter all the way for me.
 

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There are options out there if iPhoto doesn't suit you - but it would be interesting to hear the specifics of your issues.
 

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What I dislike about iPhoto is the way it keeps track of things. Difficult to find anything if you do not use iPhoto; and almost impossible to archive.

I import using image capture(OSX) or just drag and drop(OS9). Originals are stored by year in one folder with subfolders. After trashing the worst images I end up with forty originals in each subfolder. I make an index print of each subfolder using Graphic Converter. I do this before I do any image manipulations. I print the indexes making it ridiculously easy to track down a particular image. Back-up or archiving can now be accomplished with a simple drag and drop of that years main folder.:cool:

Everything after that is done with copies of the originals. I use iPhoto only for slide shows and it is great for that.
 

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What I dislike about iPhoto is the way it keeps track of things. Difficult to find anything if you do not use iPhoto
Yes. If you do not use iPhoto, it's difficult to find anything. :confused:

and almost impossible to archive.
Umm...ok.

I import using image capture(OSX) or just drag and drop(OS9). Originals are stored by year in one folder with subfolders. After trashing the worst images I end up with forty originals in each subfolder. I make an index print of each subfolder using Graphic Converter. I do this before I do any image manipulations. I print the indexes making it ridiculously easy to track down a particular image. Back-up or archiving can now be accomplished with a simple drag and drop of that years main folder.:cool:
I don't know what you are doing, but all my iPhoto imports are sorted by Year folders, and within those Year folders are subfolders with the Roll names. From within iPhoto, it's very easy to print contact sheets of each roll. Back-up and archiving is just as simple with drag and drop.

Everything after that is done with copies of the originals. I use iPhoto only for slide shows and it is great for that.
iPhoto maintains the original photo, and only alters a copy.

I detest iPhoto as well. GraphicConverter all the way for me.
Seeing how GraphicConverter isn't a photo library utility, I can't even imagine how you can compare the two.
 

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Wow I guess you don't know GC do you.



edit, move, rename, trash all within one window....and no litter of thumbnails.

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my main photo archiving app is an older version of iview (2.0 I think) that runs about 400% faster vs iphoto. I have not tried the newer versions as this one does all I need and it runs perfectly in tiger. I really only use iphoto to do very minor little tweaks to photos. anything bigger and I pull out photoshop.

iphoto is a consumer app to the max so if thats not your thing go elsewhere like ivew or graphic converter as macdoc noted. I used GC back in the os9 days and liked it a lot.
 

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I don't use iPhoto as my main image handler for 3 main reasons:
1. I prefer the simplicity of my own file system.
2. I shoot mainly RAW, and iPhoto's handling of RAW is limited
3. I prefer PS's more extensive and precise editing abilities, though LR is very useful for some work on RAW images.

I do use iPhoto for some of my JPEGs that I want to include in iLife projects, and for this it works fine. I know lots of people who shoot mostly JPEG, do limited editing and use iLife extensively and find iPhoto to be a great application.

I think GC is an amazing app, but for many the image editing interface is simply not intuitive or integrated. In this regard, for an 'amateur' organizer and editor iPhoto is very easy to use, and very effective. I like how the latest version lets you keep images in your own folders and references them from there.
 

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3. I prefer PS's more extensive and precise editing abilities,
Pelao, FYI, under iPhoto's preferences you can set an "alternate" editing application for your photos - so a double-click on an image can launch Photoshop or anything else you'd like to use for photo manipulation. :D

Pamela, care to share your specific gripes? I find iPhoto very, very useful and user-friendly, though perhaps you have attempted to use many more photos than I do (currently just over 2100 shots).

The integration with other iApps, particularly iWeb and iMovie is a big boost. The ease of ordering prints (recently sent my Mom a "mother's day" package of 100 photos from my México experiences) is great. Slideshows, export to Galerie, ... lots to love! :D

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Pelao, FYI, under iPhoto's preferences you can set an "alternate" editing application for your photos - so a double-click on an image can launch Photoshop or anything else you'd like to use for photo manipulation.
Yes, I know: but I still prefer my own filing system and bridge or LR for managing images.
 

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Holy Crap, Pamela! I started a thread like this (though much more balanced) about iWeb, and I'm still nursing my wounds from the daggers thrown.

Watch your back!
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I feel for you Cubamark! I thought your earlier post was appropiate.

Many people, I think, miss the point of iApps (iPhoto, iTunes, iWeb et al).
Apple has created a family of wonderful applications that allow you to mix, mingle and create magic easily and simply. They are easy to understand and use and the results for the most part are simply amazing. They are not however "pro" ... yes you can get "professional results", but they are not per se "pro" apps.

If you require professional applications that guarantee professional results you have to look else where beyond the "free" applications that come with every Mac.

That's why Apple says their computers are ready to use right out of the box!
 

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I use and love iPhoto. I currently have over 3000 images in it and it runs rock solid and fast. I don't have trouble archiving or finding an image I want and pulling it out. I don't bother digging through the file system to find the photo I want. If I need to make a copy of it to my desktop I launch iPhoto, find it, and then drag it to the desktop. It really couldn't be easier and is much faster than digging through folders in the Finder. Plus, the integration with all of the other iApps is a bonus and is extremely handy.

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I really like iPhoto. I found I use it alot for storing and sorting photos. It has very good folder, smart folder, keyword, and spotlight organization features. Having said that, I wouldn't use it to manage our image library at work.

My two beefs with iPhoto are:
1.) Attaching images to webmail apps is a pain in the ass. I can't drag and drop, and I can't easily locate where the images are in the file structure. I have to export the pictures to somewhere I can find them and them add them.

2.) I lost my library one time due to database corruption caused by iPhoto. Sure I had al my pictures, but all my organizing was gone. My only fix was a recently backed up hard drive. Even then I had to redo keywords for 3 or 4 "rolls" of photos.
 
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