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Shouldn't there be a commemorative computer to mark the occasion or something? We'll see how this day progresses, but I was kinda expecting an announcement YESTERDAY (last business day before The Big Day).

Any opinions on this? In a related matter, are not the i/eMacs desperately overdue for speed-bumps or even redesigns? God, the eMacs STILL do not have USB 2!
 

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I think they are going to drop the bomb the same way they did it 20 years ago. If there is going to be any kind of major announcement it will be superbowl sunday!
 

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Or this coming Tuesday.
I stuck some stuff in Everything Else - have a peek.

The Mac turns 20

I'll be adding interesting links. Should be a trip down memory lane for many of us.
 

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My guess is Tuesday will be the big event. But you would have thought Apple would have put more about the 20th Anniversary on their site - the only thing on their site about the 20th Anniversary is the TV ad. MacCentral has more 20th Anniversary info than the Apple page.
 

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Sorry guys, I miss the significance of Tuesday. Enlghten me. :confused:

BTW, Pepsi is "The Official Soft Drink of The Superbowl" http://www.superbowl.com/ This, along with the "kickoff" of the iTunes promo, should have Apple logos and iTunes promos a'flyin!
 

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Sorry guys, I miss the significance of Tuesday. Enlghten me.
Well, according to this 1984 Calendar , January 24th was a Tuesday. So it seems Tuesdays are a special day with Apple, just like they are today.
 

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I was thinking that a 20th Century pivoting iMac would be nice,
Anyone remember those old Pivoting monitors?

It would be great to a have a pivoting iMac, Considering how
friggin big the iMac is getting.

Dave :cool:
 

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Hell, I'd be happy with a faster iMac, period.

All of Apple's current G4 products are maxed at 1.25GHz: iMac with a single 1.25GHz G4, G4 Powrermacs with dual 1.25GHz G4. Meanwhile, bth Powerlogix and Giga Designs are shipping G4 processor upgrades up to 1.4GHz and even higher. It seems that Motorola has halted at around 1.4, and who knows if there's any more upgradability left inthe G4. And yet, the G5 is a hot puppy... and a brand new puppy. Do we really think a G5 iMac is in the cards, soon? I don't, but SOMETHING'S gotta give soon with those old creaky G4 clockspeeds!

I have someone who is JUST DIEING to get into iLife with their first computer. They're looking at a Superdrive eMac... but I feel hesitant at recomending a SINGLE 1GHz processor -- AND it doesn;t have USB II!!

So, we're holding off to give Apple some time to come out with a 20th Anniversary "something" with a speed bump. If nothing happens, maybe we'll keep our eyes open on the used market?
 

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current G4 products are maxed at 1.25GHz

Actually, they're maxed out at 1.33 Ghz. Which isn't a bad thing, a 1Ghz G4 is more than enough for most peoples needs, even with iLife '04; Just stock up on RAM.

I feel hesitant at recomending a SINGLE 1GHz processor -- AND it doesn;t have USB II!!

Man, a single 1 Ghz is enough. Unless of course, your friend is planning on making a movie of Oscar calibre, in which case you probably don't want to look at an eMac anyway.

And about USB2, I wouldn't worry about it so much, FireWire is better in pretty much every sense of the word.
 

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Apple did release a dual 1.42 G4 PowerMac MDD before the G5 was launched. Also, 1GHz G4 is dog-slow in my opinion. I'm crawling along at 867, and have performance overhead issues with iDVD, iMovie, GarageBand, and especially games. Buying a G4-anything at this point in time is, IMHO, a mistake.
 

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Apple did release a dual 1.42 G4 PowerMac MDD before the G5 was launched.
You're right. Thanks for reminding me. The fact that Apple scaled back the G4 Powermacs suggests to me that they cannot depend on Motorola producing a sufficient amount at that speed. In light of the [b[IBM[/b] G5, I'm sure Moto has killed any further development of G4 processors. Maybe IBM will advance the G4 along, now that they're doing them... but I wouldn't hold my breath for significant improvements.

Also, 1GHz G4 is dog-slow in my opinion. I'm crawling along at 867, and have performance overhead issues with iDVD, iMovie, GarageBand, and especially games. Buying a G4-anything at this point in time is, IMHO, a mistake.
Certainly buying a NEW G4 could be a mistake in some situations. Like, they still serve well and will continue to do so for quite a while. But, I'd choose carefully. DDR bottlenecks, slow bus speed, single processor compatibility in some apps (versus REALLY utilizing the DUALs in many G4 Powermacs). Some Powermacs have three RAM slots, etc.

As I cannot afford a dual G5 at the moment, and that I already have my Sawtooth upgraded a fair bit (maxed RAM, ATI 9000 Pro, lotsa drives), I've decided to hang on with a dual 1.2GHz G4 processor upgrade. barring the 100MHz FSB and 2X AGP, it should serve me almost as well as most used Powermacs out there.
 

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Slow at 1GHz?!?

Oh yeah, well, my G4/450 Sawtooth will kick all yer butts! And with one USB port tied behind it's BACK!

Of course, it can't run Halo... But it will still whup all yer sorry keisters!

Kids today... Man, when I was your age, we didn't even have HARD DRIVES!. Floppies were really floppy and 1MB of RAM was OVERKILL!



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LOL Strongblade :D

I too have a Sawtooth with delusions of grandeur! I have installed a CDRW, ATI Radeon 9000 Pro, and have both another gig of RAm to add to the gig I got and a dual 1.2GHz G4 processor on its way up from otherworld Computing :cool:

It should fly! The February 2004 issue of Mac Addict has a big section on upgrading Macs. They ran Photoshop tests on a stock Sawtooth 400 against a dual 800 Quicksilver, a dual 1.42 MDD G4 and a dual 2GHz G5 -- all with 1GB of RAM. Now, their chart's timings are graduated in 50 second intervals, so it's difficult to be exact about this, but the stock Sawtooth took 65 seconds, the Sawtooth with a 550MHz upgrade took 53, and a 1.4GHz upgrade took about 33 -- as did the Quicksilver. The MDD took about 22 seconds and the G5 took about 14 seconds.

Given this, I'm hoping that my dual 1.2 -- when handling apps that are dual processor aware (like Logic Audio which I use for my work) -- will better a dual 1GHz G4. Certainly i should better a dual 800 Quicksilver (which can only take 1.5GB of RAM and the Sawtooth can take 2GB).

BTW, at this sizes of Photoshop files used (10, 25 and 50MB), they saw no increase in performance on any system when using more than 1GB of RAM. Other tests I've seen using larger files on a G5 with up to 8GB RAM did show significant improvements, however. YMMV.
 
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