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I have a video project coming up that is going to require a little bit of finesse that goes beyond iMovie's capabilities so we're looking at getting some pro-level software. In the past I'd just do simple motion graphics and titling in Flash and export it to iMovie, but this time we have a nicer budget and I'd like to get something a little more dedicated that can take our work to the next level.

Initially, we thought about getting the Adobe CS3 Production Suite but Final Cut Studio 3 is a bit cheaper and seems to have some interesting tools (Motion looks pretty snazzy.)

I have some face-time with Premiere 5.5, and AfterEffects so they're not totally alien to me. From the looks of it, FCP is similar in some respects.

Anybody have first-hand experiences/insights they would like to share between Apple and Adobe's A/V offerings? Personal preferences?

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For straight editing, there's little to no difference between Premiere and FCP. Once you get into motion graphics, DVDs, color correction, and more... the differences between Creative Suite and FCS are HUGE. Don't expect to buy FCS and be using Motion within 2 days. It will take some time to learn, as will DVD studio Pro. I still don't know how to use the new Color application (a $20000 piece of software now included for free in FCS by the way), and I do this for a living.

If you have time to invest in learning the extra software, I'd highly recommend FCS. There's nothing better in my opinion. If you need to do something quick and you're familiar with Adobe, then stick with Adobe.

P.S. If you have FCS3, you're one lucky person considering they just came out with FCS2 a couple months back. ;)

P.S.S. If you have a budget, consider hiring a professional editor. It may end up costing you the same as buying the software, but you'll have a better end product without the hassle of losing 4-8 weeks to learning. You'll also be supporting the local economy, and building relationships with other local content producers. And yes, there are editors looking for work in Ottawa. ;) *cough**ineedwork**cough*

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I second a7mc's comments about the learning curve of all aspects of FCS.
The learning curve is not just steep, it's also high and long!
Straight editing in FCP is sort of intuitive. MOTION is not.
 

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I second a7mc's comments about the learning curve of all aspects of FCS.
The learning curve is not just steep, it's also high and long!
Straight editing in FCP is sort of intuitive. MOTION is not.
I have been working with FCP since FCP 1.25 and am FCP 5 certified. I agree with both of these posters it is a great program and some what intuitive but it's not overnight. Get the software and hire an editor to edit. Take some time to learn the software. I can use Freeway to make websites but I am not a web site builder. I can use photoshop to create graphics but I am certainly not a graphic designer.

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So how would you compare AfterEffects to Motion? Similar? Vaguely similar? Very different?

I have several years of casual use with AfterEffects and was wondering if the two were similar.

I'm concerned about Premiere--the last time I used it was versions 5 and 6 before Adobe scrapped it all together from the Mac platform. Premiere 6 was extremely buggy and suffered a lot of problems.

As far as DVD Studio Pro goes, I've made a couple of projects with version 1, before I made the move to OS X, so it's not totally foreign to me.

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Thanks for the replies thus far! :)
 

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Comparing AfterEffects to Motion is like comparing MS Word to Dreamweaver. Sure they both write text, but have different uses and results. Motion is not similar to AE in the least bit. Well... ok... it has layers. That's about the only similarity. :)

DVD Studio Pro has come a LONG way since v1. If you're just using a template, you can learn it in about 2 days. If you want to go custom, you better set aside a good chuck of time to learn about how to import assets properly, and learn what needs to be set (end jumps, pre-scripts, etc).

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The best thing you could probably do is go play with FCP at an Apple Store, take a course. That way you'll get some time on the Suite and you'll know if you like how it works, and if it is something you'll be able to handle.

I know there are people who still swear by After Effects for doing f/x in their films, but I find there are enough 3rd party filters and transitions that all my needs are met for flashy editing right in FCP. And let's not forget Soundtrack - I don't think Adobe comes with such a thorough sound library!
 

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The best thing you could probably do is go play with FCP at an Apple Store, take a course. That way you'll get some time on the Suite and you'll know if you like how it works, and if it is something you'll be able to handle.

I know there are people who still swear by After Effects for doing f/x in their films, but I find there are enough 3rd party filters and transitions that all my needs are met for flashy editing right in FCP. And let's not forget Soundtrack - I don't think Adobe comes with such a thorough sound library!
Yeah, I might have to make a quick scoot to Montréal or maybe Toronto if I can get some free time.
 
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Funny, I found Motion to be pretty easy to latch on to and was doing pretty good stuff with it in my first day. It reminds me a lot of older animation type interfaces (spline/keyframe type setups).

Bang for your $$ FCS is a better choice in my eyes as it gives you the tools you need to do full video authoring, CS3 does not. A couple of my online buddies have jumped into the latest AE (i'm still using 7) and they are really not enjoying it at all.
 
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