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So in their infinite wisdom they shut down BOTH the Don Valley and the Gardiner to transport a tiny bit of explosive with no more bang than a gallon of gas going off.
Idjits.....




Bombs detonated in one ‘fireball-type' blast
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August 31, 2007 at 5:37 PM EDT
TORONTO — Toronto police temporarily shut down two major highways Friday as they gingerly removed several letter bombs from an east-end neighbourhood and ferried them across town to be detonated at an isolated site near the waterfront.

The devices in question were plucked from the trunk of a car during the arrest Thursday night of a man police allege is connected to a string of attempted letter bombings earlier this month in Toronto and Guelph, Ont., an hour's drive west.

“We don't have a motive at this point,” said police Constable Wendy Drummond. “We do know that the three victims — the two in Toronto and the one in Guelph — were not chosen at random.”

Constable Drummond wouldn't elaborate further, except to say that the victims were all linked and that the rest was still part of an ongoing investigation.

Earlier Friday, television news channels showed overhead footage of a convoy of police vehicles, their lights ablaze, with a police SUV in the middle, towing an armoured, cylindrical bomb-disposal unit.

Traffic was at a standstill as the convoy slowly made its way south to the Leslie Street Spit, a deserted peninsula of land that juts out into Lake Ontario at the edge of the city's harbourfront district, where all three devices were detonated in one controlled “fireball-type” blast, police said.

Police boats patrolled the waters about 450 metres offshore to keep marine traffic away from the blast site.
CTV Toronto - T.O. police re-open highways, detonate 3 bombs - CTV News, Shows and Sports -- Canadian Television

New toys got show em in use............yeah right.

THIS is what they were transporting

- what's that 1/2 cup of gasoline?
 

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Wouldn't want that exploding in my face that's for sure.
 

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Yes indeed but it also did not warrant the show boating and closure of major highways.
Not the first time ( think "terrorist" capture ).......unfortunately likely not the last.
 

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Had they transported it unknown to you, and the press found out and exposed them, would you be among the first to be hollering they were risking lives by doing so? And more importantly, did they know exactly what they were dealing with when they made the decision?

You can't have it both ways.

Erring on the side of public safety is a good thing. ;)
 

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it's a post 9/11 world

anything to keep the populace afraid of "them" makes it easier for the neo cons to promote their agenda

wanna bet harpo et al are conducting an overnight poll on how the Cdn. electorate now views our military action in Afghanistan?

if positive for the cons, look for a poll to be released in Asper's Bazaar
 

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it's a post 9/11 world

anything to keep the populace afraid of "them" makes it easier for the neo cons to promote their agenda

wanna bet harpo et al are conducting an overnight poll on how the Cdn. electorate now views our military action in Afghanistan?

if positive for the cons, look for a poll to be released in Asper's Bazaar
Wow! Took your paranoid/Harpo pill again today did you? :D
 

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it's a post 9/11 world

anything to keep the populace afraid of "them" makes it easier for the neo cons to promote their agenda

wanna bet harpo et al are conducting an overnight poll on how the Cdn. electorate now views our military action in Afghanistan?

if positive for the cons, look for a poll to be released in Asper's Bazaar
HEY! LOOK OVER HERE EVERYBODY! I'M MACSPECTRUM! I HATE STEPHEN HARPER!!! EVERYTHING IN THE WORLD IS HARPER'S FAULT! STOP LOOKING AT OTHER STUFF!!! LOOK AT ME!!! I'M MACSPECTRUM!
 

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MacDoc, your post is absurd. It is the job of the police to serve and protect.

They had no definite idea as to the explosive power of those bombs. Given that they were home made devices, and therefore assumed to be unstable, the safest method of disposal would be to transport and detonate them - exactly what the police did.

Now, if they had transported them in an unmarked and unescorted vehicle and the bombs had gone off, I'm sure you would be screaming bloody murder. The reason for closing the bridges is, one could assume, so that if the bomb detonates while under the bridge, and the bridge is damaged, there is no risk of casualties.

Please, stop your showboating and recognize when the police do their jobs.
 

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I guess I'm not the only one who finds it ironic to criticize the bomb squad from a cushy chair. :lmao:

So riddle me this. Why would you detonate a gallon of gas in a residential area? Come on. Use your head.
 

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I wonder if MacDoc has a problem with authority. Next time there's a bomb threat, except across the street from MacDoc's residence, the police should just detonate it there and then, and let MD come back here and complain that the police were being "reckless and needlessly risking lives." ;)

Honestly -- why in the world would they detonate the bomb where they found it? Especially since they didn't completely (100%) know what the explosive devices were capable of. Why needlessly risk lives when it's not required? It's not the end of the world if the DVP goes down for a few hours. Seriously.
 

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I'm with the lot who thinks MacDoc is way wrong on this score. Way, waaay wrong. From the comfort of a nice cushy chair, indeed. What a bizarre excuse to dump on the cops.

Guy Toronto: thanks, that was funny.
 

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Yea, I agree I'd rather them have it blow up somewhere safe and isolated, even if that inconvienience me (travel or what not) for such a small explosion. The posibilities of things going wrong are quite huge, explosives are generally not a stable factor, a computer part should function the way it's meant to, an explosive is meant to cause damage, home made are meant to cause as much as possible.
 

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I just knew I'd get the chance to post this picture eventually! :D

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it's a post 9/11 world

anything to keep the populace afraid of "them" makes it easier for the neo cons to promote their agenda

wanna bet harpo et al are conducting an overnight poll on how the Cdn. electorate now views our military action in Afghanistan?

if positive for the cons, look for a poll to be released in Asper's Bazaar
You know, that kind of lobbying by the forces at bay is not untrue. A few years ago, as a journalist, I covered a cop bust of a big grow op in vancouver. They are a dime a dozen. So why were we treated to a bid red carpet show with photo ops of the cops removing plants etc, full access, cooperation upthe ying yang from the boys in blue - whatever the press wanted. ON A SATURDAY AFTERNOON. That's unheard of.

Of course, there were bigwig politicians in town and the cops always make sure they are on the front pages in a positive light when the boys from Ottawa are visiting. Happens all over the country, an organised positive PR spin for law enforcement. And the press lap it up every time.
 

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Well for once the National Pest got something right....Episode of 24

Bomb detonation turns Toronto into real-life episode of '24'

Torontonians were transfixed yesterday by the spectacle of police gingerly transporting three live bombs through their city, shutting down two of Toronto’s busiest roadways for more than an hour after a man was arrested for a series of August letter bombings.
After a series of updates earlier in the day, Posted Toronto presents its full account of the story below, which will appear in Saturday's paper.
The Post's Chris Wattie and Matthew Coutts report:
As news helicopters buzzed overhead, a 17-car police convoy crept slowly down the Don Valley Parkway and under the Gardiner Expressway to the waterfront Leslie Street Spit, carefully towing a trailer containing the three explosive devices seized earlier from a rental car.
Bridges over the busy parkway were sealed off and pedestrians and other vehicles kept hundreds of metres away until the bombs were carefully deposited on a deserted section of the spit, and blown up in a controlled explosion that could be heard kilometres away.
Deputy Chief Tony Warr, of Toronto police, said officers found the three devices, each “about 14-18 inches long,” when they swooped down on a car late Thursday as it was stopped at a gasoline station in east-end Thorncliffe Park. An area several blocks around the site was sealed off while bomb disposal experts disarmed the devices and loaded them into an armoured cylinder for the trip to the waterfront.
The two earlier bombs delivered to separate Toronto homes were also inside bubble wrap courier envelopes, but contained an explosive petroleum-based fluid, according to Toronto police. The first letter bomb exploded in the hands of an unidentified man at his east-end home on Aug. 11, leaving him with serious burns.
Last Sunday, the Toronto police Emergency Task Force blew up a second courier package, containing the same explosive fluid, after it was found at the north-end home of real estate lawyer Terrence Reiber. The first letter bomb victim has not been identified by police and Mr. Reiber has declined comment on the incident.
Funny no parade for the first detonation - maybe because he was a lawyer.

They could publish a photo of the improvised device....why - because they already had evidence......they were following the guy..it was NOT a random traffic stop.

Someone else makes this comment..

It astounds me that the Toronto Police Services determined a gas station as the "safest place" in which to arrest an individual with explosive devices in the trunk of the automobile he was driving. This is madness!!! Within 250 yards of this gas station you have Thorncliffe Park Public School (the largest in Canada with 1600 students) and Leaside Towers (2 - 44 story apartment buildings and 3,000+ residents) and again the largest in Canada. Since this makes no sense whatsoever the only plausible explanation remaining is that Mayor David Miller personally approved this move.
Indeed why would police CHOOSE to arrest someone they thought was a bomber at a gas station??

If a bomb exploded in transit, it will be contained to the special police trailer, he explained.
oh really - contained you say??.....pray tell if contained why it was necessary for the spectacle????

No one is arguing that the devices needed careful handling when found....but when secured.....the rest was show boating.

I'm glad y'all enjoyed being transfixed. :clap:
 

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Deleted. MD: Try clarifying your post.
 

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I'm guessing that MacDoc is most concerned about whether a particular cultural group is ultimately going to be set up to take it on the ass for this.
 
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