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IT'S 10:30 A.M. and Balsillie is sitting in a RIM boardroom drinking coffee from a stainless steel mug. He is wearing a sky-blue T-shirt tucked into grey dress pants. Black socks and loafers complete the decidedly casual office-casual look. An autographed Aerosmith poster hangs on the wall, a memento from a 2004 staff party that featured a performance from the boisterous rock band. It also serves as a reminder that RIM is still a hip tech company despite a $42 billion market valuation, putting the firm on par with some major banks.
"Money can't buy [you] love" (or, it can if you're "Apple" since they sell some cool songs, from "Apple" now that they didn't use to sell), but it can rent Aerosmith for a while.

I guess all it takes to be hip is to have the signed poster--and to never use the word "hip" again...
 

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it's funny how people think $599 is expensive! With the iphone your getting touch screen technology, a cell phone, an ipod, and a web browser that actually works good on a phone! oh yeah, they also get a crappy OS called OSX on the phone....that ruins the whole thing...damn..
 

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Well, a Mini is $679, so yes, an iPhone is expensive. You can get a whole PC laptop for $600.
In a year, HP will introduce a cellphone with the power of a laptop. Maybe then, it might be worth spending serious cash. Since the iPhone only has an 8 G drive, I wasn't interested at all at that price point. So, you might think it's funny that people think that's expensive, but some people think it is funny that anyone would pay so much when technology has such a short life cycle.
A comment like that is also a bit insensitive. I earn a good living, but I would never be so bold as to dismiss people who think $600 is expensive.
 

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But still, I hope Balsillie doesn't eventually lose so much money to Apple that he can't bring a southern hockey team to Canada! :(
 

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I don't think iPhone is really much of a Blackberry killer. Blackberry's strengths are that it's a business phone with business applications; its main competitors are Treos with maybe the exception of the Pearl - which I've seen a lot of text-message-happy younger people carrying also.

The iPhone has way more mass appeal, and it doesn't seem to be marketed as a business tool, more like an overall communications and multimedia tool with a lot of sexy features.

In any case, the iPhone is probably more likely to appeal to people who go for form over function and the Blackberry to people who go for function over form.
 

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Well, a Mini is $679, so yes, an iPhone is expensive. You can get a whole PC laptop for $600.
In a year, HP will introduce a cellphone with the power of a laptop. Maybe then, it might be worth spending serious cash. Since the iPhone only has an 8 G drive, I wasn't interested at all at that price point. So, you might think it's funny that people think that's expensive, but some people think it is funny that anyone would pay so much when technology has such a short life cycle.
A comment like that is also a bit insensitive. I earn a good living, but I would never be so bold as to dismiss people who think $600 is expensive.
I wasn't trying to be insensitive....$600 is a lot of cash. All I am saying is that your getting way more phone, way more music, better surfing and OSX!. Ss that not the best of all worlds? It's secure, and the software that works like butter? I can't believe people are not seeing that? A version of OSX on a phone means nothing?

I thought Mac people would be all for it because blackberry as far as I know doesn't even have decent software for the mac to use with thier phones....
 

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RIM has nothing to worry about, just as MS doesn't have to worry either. Apple's gear might be better, but corporate buyers are set in their ways.
 

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What else do you expect Balsillie to say?
"The future is the iPhone"

He and every other CEO of cell phones are taking notice. Just not publicly. With the next gen of iPhone or perhaps a few software upgrades, many of the missing iPhone pieces will eventually be filled.
 

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The tyranny of residual media in the Toronto Star today Sunday

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The tyranny of residual media
Ryan Bigge Jul. 08, 2007 The first iPhones were unboxed nine days ago, which means that the countdown sequence for their inevitable march toward obsolescence has begun. It might seem cruel to mention the technological best-before date for a device ...
TheStar.com - News - The tyranny of residual media
 

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ENIAC & its 18,000 vacuum tubes into their rec room & NORAD

FYI fodder follow up

Been in the North Bay facility down in Granit a couple times

there are 2 tube systems there, one a back up for the other

the vacuum tube heat is used to heat the place as High humidity

a problem of these types of facilities

It sure is interesting to be in the Key room

where the Missle system can be initiated

the movies do justice to the place...
 

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chopped liver?

My Rogers (3) year contract is up in 2 weeks..... I so0000000 wanted an iphone
now I just have iphone envy... I do not want to unlock it ... I do not want to hack into it.... I just want it to work in Canada.. Hey Canadians, is Apple trying to tell us something... Like they think we are chopped liver? :ptptptptp
 

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RIM has nothing to worry about, just as MS doesn't have to worry either. Apple's gear might be better, but corporate buyers are set in their ways.
Well said!

Hey Canadians, is Apple trying to tell us something... Like they think we are chopped liver?
Patience, grasshopper, patience. It will come to Canada.
 

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Blackberries at least do email well, and have a removable battery -needed a swap out this morning. The problem I have with most phones is that they do music, video or web browsing about half as good as a dedicated device making them rather useless in the end.

Concept for a casual home phone able to play music, video, or some web seems to work with the iPhone, but that price point just seems too high for me. My business won't pay for a phone unless it is a blackberry because we need the email tie-in to Exchange, and we need some applications specifically written for the phone. I'd imagine that is the same for many other businesses, and for a day to day mission critical operation, the Blackberry makes much more sense.


Time will tell I suppose.
 

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My Rogers (3) year contract is up in 2 weeks..... I so0000000 wanted an iphone
now I just have iphone envy... I do not want to unlock it ... I do not want to hack into it.... I just want it to work in Canada.. Hey Canadians, is Apple trying to tell us something... Like they think we are chopped liver? :ptptptptp
You know you don't have to renew your contract in two weeks, right? You just go month-to-month for as long as you like.
 

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You know you don't have to renew your contract in two weeks, right? You just go month-to-month for as long as you like.
Good advice.
I've been on this month-to-month contract for close to 8 years.
Every once and awhile I update the phone and until recently, Bell actually gave me a credit to buy new phones...
 

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FYI fodder follow up
Been in the North Bay facility down in Granit a couple times
there are 2 tube systems there, one a back up for the other
the vacuum tube heat is used to heat the place as High humidity
Not only that; but if a Nuclear Holocaust was to be unleashed upon the world, all of the semiconductor devices would be obliterated by Electro-Magnetic Pulse, even my iMac; while the ENIAC... EM Pulsing would simply clean up the electrodes within the devices and yield better performance! Sure, the world would be ruined, but then, no more Pentiums with math defects and random bursting into flames and burning houses down to worry about...

And so what if Balsillie says nay to the iPhone. Listen, this dude offered an extra $45 Million for the Predators and couldn't make a deal. I'd feel like a loser too if say, I offered an extra $10,000 to buy a Ford F-150; but the dealership elected to sell it to someone else at a $5,000 discount. The iPhone may not make a dent in Corporate America; but I think CEO's will end up using them because of their coolness. Perhaps a special platinum and diamond encrusted version?

If I was Balsillie, I'd say nay too; then run off and call my stock broker and invest in Apple before I loose all of my cash... What was he thinking? The Predators???
Perhaps for $5 million for what it's worth? So really, I wouldn't listen to this dude when it comes to such things as nay saying.
 
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