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'I felt really scared:' Toronto girl says man tried to cut off her hijab as she walked to school



An 11-year-old Toronto girl says a man attempted twice to cut off her hijab as she walked to school on Friday morning, and police are now characterizing the attack as a hate crime.

"I felt really scared and confused," Khawlah Noman, a student at Pauline Johnson Junior Public School in Scarborough, Ont., said at a news conference Friday afternoon.

Khawlah said she felt the man behind her while she was walking to school with her younger brother, Mohammad Zakariyya, and turned around and saw him holding scissors. She says she screamed and he ran away, but returned a few minutes later.

"He continued cutting my hijab again" before smiling and running away, said Khawlah.

Toronto police are investigating the incident as a hate crime.

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Khawlah said she's now "actually really scared" to walk to school.

"What you're doing is really wrong, you should not act like this, and especially, I'm a kid," she said, addressing her attacker.

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Police are asking for the public's help to identify the attacker described as Asian, of medium build, with a thin moustache and black prescription glasses.

The man is said to be in his mid-20s, and was wearing a black hooded sweatshirt and black pants.

They are asking that anyone with security or dash cam video who may have been in the Birchmount Road and Bay Mills Boulevard area around 9 a.m. to check their footage in case they captured the attack.

(CBC)​
 

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Tell ya what, CM. How's about for every post about an attack on a Muslim in Canada I post a hunnert links to Muslim attacks worldwide?

Would that be an acceptable trade? I can go higher if you like.
 

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So, I'd like to talk about this alleged attack some.

First off, I'm not saying it didn't happen. Yet. I'm going to wait for more of the facts to come out before I decide either way.

Second, there are certain details about this alleged attack that didn't pass the sniff test right from the get go. The biggest for me was "cutting off my hijab". Why not just pull it off? Ranking right up there, where is said evidence of cut hijab? Anybody seen a photo of the piece that remained on her head? Me, neither.

Third, as I read more about the alleged attack online, further inconsistencies are revealed, not the least of which is the timeline. Read the link for more info.

Clock Girl

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If the girl was assaulted while walking to school on Friday morning, how is it even possible that @CBCNews has a reporter dispatched, facts verified, and story written by 9:49 AM?

Simply not possible. pic.twitter.com/5aAAuNMQkL
— John Groves (@jfgroves) January 14, 2018
Caution: some of the comments display poor taste.

Questions, questions, questions...
 

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... I'm going to wait for more of the facts to come out before I decide either way.
A commendable change in your usual M.O.

... where is said evidence of cut hijab? Anybody seen a photo of the piece that remained on her head? Me, neither.
It was stated in the article that the police have the hijab held as evidence.

Read the link for more info.

Clock Girl

Caution: some of the comments display poor taste.
Jeebus :yikes: Reading that story, and the comments from the mental giants who follow it, puts an entirely new light on your personality. Talk about wackos. :eek:

Questions, questions, questions...
Sure. Ask your questions. Wait for the facts, as you say. Perhaps this is a hoax. But the rantings of the folks at that dead animal blog you frequently follow put this incident on par with the faking of the moon landing, and just as unlikely, given the number of people in the media / government / school system / police force who would have to "be in on it".

More facts: She's 11. Somewhat unusual to be wearing a hijab.
Not unusual at all. Follow this link, and scroll down to the section "Hijab Customs" for elaboration.

Police looking for an "Asian" man in his 20's w/ black hair & a moustache.
Another reason "Asian" is useless as a descriptor.

Muslim on Muslim violence? (the iron...)
Where on earth did you get that? Oh, right, that's one of the usual tropes of the right-wingers. Your pals at The Rebel tried that with the Quebec Mosque shooting last year.
 

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Details from The Toronto Star add to our understanding of the incident:

Khawlah Noman was walking to school with her younger brother on Friday when she felt somebody pull the hood of her winter jacket down. Protected from the rain was the 11-year-old’s light blue hijab — the target of a man holding a pair of scissors with a blue handle.
If this 11-year-old girl isn't conducting some kind of vast conspiracy intending to trick us into feeling sorry for jihadist muslims-in-training (did I get that right, FeXL?), then the likelihood of the perpetrator being charged with a hate crime seems likely. He removed the jacket hood and specifically targeted the hijab, which had been for the most part obscured by the jacket hood. As a symbol of Islam, his target was very much religious in nature. He did not attack the girl: he attacked the symbol of the religion.
 

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I will not get into the debate about a single incident, but I would be interested in opinions on the longer situation as Muslim immigration to this country continues to be championed by our current leader, The Hairpiece.

Think about a future where Muslims continue to not only immigrate, but multiple internally until they become a majority in our country. What is their long term intention? Is it to assimilate and meld with us, or ultimately take us over and have their own vision of Canada as a Muslim country with Sharia law?

The do gooders among us will poo poo that type of thinking, but are they blind to the threat?

That is the real crisis that we do not now face, but our grandchildren may very well have to endure. It is simply the beginning that may lead to the end?

Some folks are far too quick to ignore the possibility.

Just saying.
 

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HA!

Toronto police say girl's reported hijab-cutting didn’t happen

Toronto police say an 11-year-old girl's report of having her hijab cut by a scissors-wielding man as she walked to school last week did not happen.
Screw you, CM. And the hat yer wearin' & the horse you rode in on.

You accuse me of not waiting for the facts, yet you jump on this stinky smelling story like a dog worrying a bone. Typical weak-minded, Progressive, SJW.

Get a f'ing grip. Some ex-journalist. You must have been great in your prime. No wonder you moved on to the challenging field of sociology...
 

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Sure got CM's back up. Great thread, buddy!
 

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This story stank to high heaven to me and that is why I did not comment. My news sense told me time and again as I read it, this made no sense.

First clue was why would any guy on the street just happen to have a pair of scissors on him while out for a walk?

From there is began to smell concocted by a young girl wanting to have folks believe she was a victim. All she did was make victims of gullible people.

Reported hijab attack on 11-year-old girl 'did not happen,' Toronto police say - Toronto - CBC News
 

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Now, I'm going to flay more of your bull$h!t.

Lemme guess: On top of all your other <snerk> skills, you're a mind reader, too? You can somehow tell if I've had a link open in my browser for a week or more & then I close it? Little telepathy going on there, CM?

A commendable change in your usual M.O.
Mental giants or not, wackos or not, they figgered it out long before you, Doctor.

Reading that story, and the comments from the mental giants who follow it, puts an entirely new light on your personality. Talk about wackos.
Or, she could just be another liar attempting to coddle favour as a VICTIM!!!

...and just as unlikely, given the number of people in the media / government / school system / police force who would have to "be in on it".
But precisely why the left & MSM (but I repeat myself...) use the term when describing Middle Eastern men.

Another reason "Asian" is useless as a descriptor.
Yep, the good ol' Red Star. Honest & objective as the day is long and without an axe to grind.

That's some understanding you got there, CM.

I wanna play high stakes poker with you, buddy. You'll be busted in 30 minutes.

Details from The Toronto Star add to our understanding of the incident...
Jihadist? Dunno. But everything else, yes! A thousand times, YES!!!

If this 11-year-old girl isn't conducting some kind of vast conspiracy intending to trick us into feeling sorry for jihadist muslims-in-training (did I get that right, FeXL?)...
Very! <snerk>

...then the likelihood of the perpetrator being charged with a hate crime seems likely.
Yes! Yes, he did! Specifically!!! :lmao::lmao::lmao:

He removed the jacket hood and specifically targeted the hijab, which had been for the most part obscured by the jacket hood.
Man, I jes' gotta say. You Progs have the most fertile imaginations. Anything else you care to conjure up or are you just gonna shut up now?

'Cause I could spend hours reading anything else you can add to this wunnerful, very imaginative, grade school story.

Frankly, with you being a sociologist & all (allegedly...) I think you could use this little exercise not only as a prime example of deviant behaviour (how to fail at victimhood) in your next book, but also as a lesson in scepticism (don't believe anything you read on MotherCorpse). You can quote anything I've posted on this thread as long as you give proper attribution. Hell, I'll even offer further input & you can include me as a secondary author!

FeXL & CM, workin' together on the next great sociology textbook. Who knew? :love2:

As a symbol of Islam, his target was very much religious in nature. He did not attack the girl: he attacked the symbol of the religion.
 

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Screw you, CM. And the hat yer wearin' & the horse you rode in on.

You accuse me of not waiting for the facts, yet you jump on this stinky smelling story like a dog worrying a bone. Typical weak-minded, Progressive, SJW.

Get a f'ing grip. Some ex-journalist. You must have been great in your prime. No wonder you moved on to the challenging field of sociology...
You are without a doubt the most unpleasant person I have had the misfortune of dealing with in an online forum.

I still accuse of you of not waiting for the facts. You never do. You immediately assume the worst of people when there is no reason to do so. The fact that hate crimes against muslims frequently occur in Canada left it not unreasonable to believe this young girl's story. That the attack apparently did not occur does not excuse you from being an irrational spewer of hatred and prejudice, though I'm sure you will take this as some kind of profound vindication.

The investigation is concluded, with oddly no pertinent details released. Rest assured, that no-one in the muslim community in Toronto is pleased about this apparently false report. It serves only to diminish the believability of other crimes that may be committed in the future. She seems to have cried "Wolf!" and it's bitten not only her, but all Toronto muslims, in the ass.

Your inability to look at things objectively and rationally, and to have a reasonable discussion without resorting to your inane name-calling speaks volumes about your character, not mine. That my character first is to be compassionate and concerned about other human beings is to my mind a strength, not the weakness that you perceive. I cannot imagine how absolutely desperate must be your perspective on the world, how miserable you must be as a person in your core, to first assume the worst about people.

To quote the notorious FeXL in his own words,

Screw you
 

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That my character first is to be compassionate and concerned about other human beings is to my mind a strength, not the weakness that you perceive.
Compassion is not what comes across in your posts. It's a political axe to grind under the guise of compassion.
 

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That's usually what Progs say when they get their asses handed to them on a public forum. Especially, especially, when they shoot themselves in the foot.

You took this bull$h!t circus stunt hook, line & sinker & ran with it. Your issue, not mine.

You are without a doubt the most unpleasant person I have had the misfortune of dealing with in an online forum.
You can accuse all you want. You have no knowledge of the number of stories I close up any given week without comment.

And the irony of me waiting for the facts of this story to come out is apparently lost on you. I guess never means since yesterday...

I still accuse of you of not waiting for the facts. You never do.
Coming from somebody who is quite obviously no judge of character <snerk>, I have no need to add to this.

Save, again, the irony of your statement is apparently lost on you...

You immediately assume the worst of people when there is no reason to do so.
Ah knows. You, Sock Boy, Wynne, a veritable plethora of <spit> Progs jumped all over this. And everyone of you was wrong. Think about that for a minute. Does that tell you anything? It should.

Amazing to see the speed of the response, too (mere hours) when it took nearly two full days for The Hairdo to address the Muslim attack in Edmonton last fall.

Nice to see you're not the only one with poor judgement. Can't say much for your company, tho...

The fact that hate crimes against muslims frequently occur in Canada left it not unreasonable to believe this young girl's story.
You aren't exactly in a position to be lecturing anybody about irrational spewing.

The fact that hate crimes against muslims frequently occur That the attack apparently did not occur does not excuse you from being an irrational spewer of hatred and prejudice...
I do! This little exercise in futility of yours to pin something, anything against those poor Muslim victims at the hands of reg'lar Canadians & the desperate lengths to which you will go in order to carry it out (including fabricating the narrative as you went along) tells me more about you than I ever cared to know.

...though I'm sure you will take this as some kind of profound vindication.
No surprise at all to anybody paying attention. I'd explain it to you but we can save that for the book. When d'you wanna meet?

...with oddly no pertinent details released.
'Course not. She didn't get away with it...

Rest assured, that no-one in the muslim community in Toronto is pleased about this...
Once again, you aren't exactly in a position to be lecturing anybody about objectivity and rationality.

Your inability to look at things objectively and rationally...
You want to have a reasonable discussion? Start with a reasonable reaction.

...and to have a reasonable discussion...
Shall I go back & find a few links with your inane name calling? Bed—>Lay upon it.

without resorting to your inane name-calling...
That your character is buffaloed by the first bleeding heart Prog headline du jour is your character flaw, not mine.

That my character first is to be compassionate and concerned about other human beings...
Quit rationalizing the fact that you were not objective, nor rational, nor patient in waiting for the details of this story to come forth.

...is to my mind a strength, not the weakness that you perceive.
You speak of my desperation when, in fact, it was your desperation to pin this heinous hate crime on someone, anyone from the host country, that made you look like a horse's ass in the first place.

You have some fukced up world view that it's always the other guy who has the problem. Even here you're pointing your finger everywhere but at yourself. You screwed up here big time. It's long overdue for you to look in the mirror.

I cannot imagine how absolutely desperate must be your perspective on the world, how miserable you must be as a person in your core, to first assume the worst about people.
 

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Thanks for the update. I hope she apologizes and explains why what she did was wrong.
won't happen not part of the liberal media narrative.
 

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Hijab hoax girl, family owe Canadians an apology

I thought at the time that everyone falling over themselves was a bit too much. The suspect had not yet been found. Maybe things weren’t quite as they were portrayed. And, besides, people are unfortunately assaulted daily in this country and the overly political response to this one implied that assaulting a girl in a hijab was somehow worse and more deserving of censure than assaulting one without.
More:

It did not happen. It was a hoax. Well then that statement just doesn’t cut it. While police may not be expecting anything further, Canadians certainly will be.

The outpouring of public support this girl received shows Canadians are compassionate people. They take allegations of this type of intolerance seriously. Yet their generosity was abused.
Further:

The family, the police and the school board owe us an explanation. And Khawlah Noman and her family owe Canada an apology.
At the very least...
 

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See that I did not get sucked into this thread.

Pounding the drums of hatred and fear against Muslims has already lead to similar tragic results as suffered by the Jews during WWII and for exactly same reason. Even if you discount various mathematical impossibilities now accepted as fact, Jews paid a terrible price for what has come to pass as the norm in the modern world. That Zionests now practice similar tactics against Muslims is completely unacceptable!

It is simply too easy to point a finger and say hate and fear this group. I don't see how it is possible for reasonably intelligent people to get sucked into this trap again and again and again, and yet still it happens!
 

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Are there no charges to be laid for filing a false claim and wasting police time and resources?
 
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