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in following up to their Earth Day celebration and statement re: green initiatives, Apple puts out this print add supporting Earth Day and throwing a counter @ Samsung in mid trial.



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LOL.

Those are fun.

To be a fly on the wall @ Samsung after this went to print. Best would have been listening to lawyers clear the ad for print.

H!
 

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And your list of products that don't have a factor of planned obsolescence is ... where exactly? Speaking of being a bit holier than thou ...
C'mon it is pretty obvious that Apple makes products of planned obsolescence, just because others do it as well doesn't mean that Apple isn't guilty of it or that they are "green".

List of products that aren't of planned obsolesce or at least certainly are made to be in use for longer periods of time before they are deliberately made to be obsolete within a short period of time... here are just a very, very few:

homes
furniture
wood working tools
garden tools
mechanical tools (saws, drill presses, grinders, ratchet sets, screws, pliers, etc., etc., etc...)
pots and pans (good pots and pans have at least a 25 year warranty if not lifetime and end up being passed down for generations)
glass wear
knives
books
safes
artwork
home decor items
jewellery
board games
lighting fixtures
pluming
etc., etc., etc...

Anything that is made to last and remain usable in the same manner as it was when it was first purchased with virtually the same usability and performance for more than ten years at a minimum
(obviously some products require more regular maintenance than others for optimal performance to be maintained but at least it is possible).

Christ, even cars today are made to last longer before they become obsolete than Apple products.

Almost all things eventually wear out but all things are not made with deliberate planned obsolescence in mind.

Many, many industries work with standardization first and foremost in mind regrading the products they make and not obsolescence in mind as a way to make money.

Also many things are designed to have parts that can be user replaced to continue their useful lifetime and longevity, something that Apple has actively been working against for almost a decade now.

Obviously electronic products/manufactures of all sorts are made with/use planned obsolescence in mind (they are the worst industry in that regard) but Apple is far from being in a position to preach to others about being "green", that is why the ad struck me as being holier than thou (not to mention hypocritical, which I didn't mention before but is the truth IMO).

So maybe time to get off your fanboy high horse and look at reality and stop insulting members who did not say anything insulting to you at all before you start casting disparaging personal remarks.

Maybe just try being nice, polite and respectful to others once in a while, it is good for the soul.

Peace out. :)
 

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Apple did not get to be one of the largest and most profitable companies in the world by having concern for their consumers. Their concern is to drive profits sky high, be damned their customers and a combination of non support of older products in a very short time span and release of new products in the same very short time span to drive consumer desire makes them suspect as to loyalty to their own customers.

One day that business plan will come crashing down, and when it does, they will once again find themselves depending on the core support of their original support group that uses the real power of their computer line and not the social media driven toys they produce for the masses.
 

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Apple did not get to be one of the largest and most profitable companies in the world by having concern for their consumers. Their concern is to drive profits sky high, be damned their customers and a combination of non support of older products in a very short time span and release of new products in the same very short time span to drive consumer desire makes them suspect as to loyalty to their own customers.

One day that business plan will come crashing down, and when it does, they will once again find themselves depending on the core support of their original support group that uses the real power of their computer line and not the social media driven toys they produce for the masses.
If the failed implementation of TBolt is of any reflection of the future of Apple when it comes to their use of proprietary technology I believe your prediction may come to pass.

Time will tell, but in terms of the adoption rate of all things TBolt it is not not looking good. I think Apple may have bet the farm on a nag (at least in terms of adoption and sales) when it comes to peripheral technology.

Apple is so blindly fixated on a closed "ecosystem" it is to their detriment at this point in time.

At this point, as it has been since its beginning, TBolt is a complete flop.
 

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Thunderbolt is not a proprietary technology. It was developed by Intel for PCs, anyone can use it, but of course like any modern technology, Apple introduced it and pushed it.

And it's actually quite a smart and user friendly standard. You don't have to worry about plugging in cables the wrong way. I love this on my iPad.
 

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And it's actually quite a smart and user friendly standard. You don't have to worry about plugging in cables the wrong way. I love this on my iPad.
That's a Lightning port and cable. Thunderbolt cables actually can be plugged in the wrong way if you forced it.

That being said, Thunderbolt drives are coming down in price; 1TB TB drives are averaging $200 these days; both G-Technology and Lacie make these sub-$200 Thunderbolt drives, cable included. (The G-Tech one has a 7200-rpm drive.) Of course, the SSD-laced Thunderbolt drives are still expensive, but it's the SSD making them pricey, not Thunderbolt. All Macs since 2012 have USB 3 and TB, giving the end user plenty of options in how they want to expand externally, and with good speeds using either ports. And for professionals who need maximum data throughput speed, the cost of TB2 peripherals probably isn't much of a deterrent.
 

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That's a Lightning port and cable. Thunderbolt cables actually can be plugged in the wrong way if you forced it.
Duh, you're right. I got the 2 technologies mixed up.
 

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Thunderbolt is not a proprietary technology. It was developed by Intel for PCs, anyone can use it, but of course like any modern technology, Apple introduced it and pushed it.

And it's actually quite a smart and user friendly standard. You don't have to worry about plugging in cables the wrong way. I love this on my iPad.
Yes you are right, except that as developed by Intel it was called "Light Peak" and it was not developed specifically for PCs (unless you also mean Macs when you say PCs).

It was Apple that trademarked the technology as Thunderbolt, that is why I referred to it incorrectly as proprietary.

However, that being said and as you said, "Apple introduced it and pushed it."

But no, not like any modern technology... Commodore in terms of "personal" computing was every bit Apple's equal in the early days.

Just to add, in terms of "modern technology", computers/smart-phones/tablets are just one small slice of the pie. There are many others that Apple has had absolutely nothing to do with.

Also Apple has been very slow to adopt some very cost effective modern computing technology. Apple never implemented eSATA and were very late to the game when it came to USB 3.0 as they were with USB 2.0.

This far out from TBolt's implementation the uptake has been abysmal and the products are still ridiculously expensive when compared to the alternatives.
 

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That's a Lightning port and cable. Thunderbolt cables actually can be plugged in the wrong way if you forced it.

That being said, Thunderbolt drives are coming down in price; 1TB TB drives are averaging $200 these days; both G-Technology and Lacie make these sub-$200 Thunderbolt drives, cable included. (The G-Tech one has a 7200-rpm drive.) Of course, the SSD-laced Thunderbolt drives are still expensive, but it's the SSD making them pricey, not Thunderbolt. All Macs since 2012 have USB 3 and TB, giving the end user plenty of options in how they want to expand externally, and with good speeds using either ports. And for professionals who need maximum data throughput speed, the cost of TB2 peripherals probably isn't much of a deterrent.
I know what you are trying to say, but just to be clear and for clarification sake for those who may not know the difference, there is no such thing as a TBolt drive. There are SATA HDs and SSDs in TBolt enclosures.

Prices may be coming down but they are at glacial speed. Not to mention the cost of cables (they are so expensive that most TBolt peripherals don't even come with a TBolt cable, so you have to add in the cost of the cable when making a purchase) and the still sky high cost of other TBolt peripherals.

As an example, a TBolt hub that adds at best 2 TBolt ports all cost around a minimum of $200, whereas for a USB 3.0 hub that adds 4 ports one can be had for under $20. :yikes:

USB 3.0 is currently the sweet spot IMO when it comes to performance relative to price.

For Pros with deep pockets and demanding uses such as gaming development and video production TBolt offers a boost in performance, but for the "Joe average" user TBolt peripherals still remain cost prohibitive. That is in a nut shell why the uptake has been so slow.

Thank god Apple had the good common sense to start implementing USB 3.0 when they did. Finally, dead last on that front.

And yet Apple still get's accolades from some for being first when it comes to "modern technology" (they have been on very few occasions).

All the while when in terms of modern product delivery to their customers, in fact, they have been behind on a number of occasions.

Apple has stopped listening to their customers a long time ago now (if they ever did) and will always go their own way... sometimes to their benefit and sometimes to their detriment.
 
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