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Apple's latest move in China has privacy advocates and human rights groups worried.

The U.S. company is moving iCloud accounts registered in mainland China to state-run Chinese servers on Wednesday along with the digital keys needed to unlock them.

"The changes being made to iCloud are the latest indication that China's repressive legal environment is making it difficult for Apple to uphold its commitments to user privacy and security," Amnesty International warned in a statement Tuesday.

The criticism highlights the tradeoffs major international companies are making in order to do business in China, which is a huge market and vital manufacturing base for Apple (AAPL).

In the past, if Chinese authorities wanted to access Apple's user data, they had to go through an international legal process and comply with U.S. laws on user rights, according to Ronald Deibert, director of the University of Toronto's Citizen Lab, which studies the intersection of digital policy and human rights.

"They will no longer have to do so if iCloud and cryptographic keys are located in China's jurisdiction," he told CNNMoney.
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Apple is under fire for moving iCloud data to China - Feb. 28, 2018
 

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Tim Cook is a hypocrite - slams the US and FBI regularly then rolls over in China
 

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Trusting personal, confidential, important data to any 'cloud' is foolish at the best.

No matter the reputation of the organisation. It only takes a single rogue player in that organisation to wreak havoc.

Backing up to 'cloud' without a full backup strategy of one's own, on site and secure, is sheer unadulterated idiocy................ IMHO
 

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Trusting personal, confidential, important data to any 'cloud' is foolish at the best.

No matter the reputation of the organisation. It only takes a single rogue player in that organisation to wreak havoc.

Backing up to 'cloud' without a full backup strategy of one's own, on site and secure, is sheer unadulterated idiocy................ IMHO
Pretty much sums it up. Sadly for most people a cloud back-up is the only offsite back-up they have.
 

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I back up my iPhone to both the cloud and my laptop. My laptop is backed up daily with Time Machine and a bootable clone. A second bootable clone is backed up weekly And a portable bootable clone travels with me when I am on the road.
 

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I back up my iPhone to both the cloud and my laptop. My laptop is backed up daily with Time Machine and a bootable clone. A second bootable clone is backed up weekly And a portable bootable clone travels with me when I am on the road.
agreed..
i back up my iPhone to my computer
which is using TimeMachine plus i have a carbon copy of my mac on an external
plus i have a NAS server which i clone my drives to with carbon copy which that NAS is off sited via cloud to a secure data center in canada.
 

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agreed..
i back up my iPhone to my computer
which is using TimeMachine plus i have a carbon copy of my mac on an external
plus i have a NAS server which i clone my drives to with carbon copy which that NAS is off sited via cloud to a secure data center in canada.
Unfortunately backing up to your Mac is not what it used to be :mad:

In 'em old days a backup was just a backup now iTunes won't touch the apps. As a result, even if you have a computer backup, your apps will be dowloaded from the app store.

Consequence: apps that are no longer on the App Store (because the editor has stopped updating them) will no longer be available. Thousands of apps have vanished with the OS11 update. And this includes several PAID FOR apps that were forcibly removed from my phone when I had a repair swap. :confused::ptptptptp
 

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Unfortunately backing up to your Mac is not what it used to be :mad:

In 'em old days a backup was just a backup now iTunes won't touch the apps. As a result, even if you have a computer backup, your apps will be dowloaded from the app store.

Consequence: apps that are no longer on the App Store (because the editor has stopped updating them) will no longer be available. Thousands of apps have vanished with the OS11 update. And this includes several PAID FOR apps that were forcibly removed from my phone when I had a repair swap. :confused::ptptptptp
trust me i know as i was a burned a few times but that said - this is all apples fault forcing 64 bit compatibility at the speed of light when developers are unable to keep up.
 
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