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Is Apple going to switch from Intel processors to ARM processors?

Intel reportedly expects Apple to start the Mac’s transition to ARM next year - 9to5Mac
https://9to5mac.com/2019/02/21/mac-marzipan-arm-next-year-maybe/

The Apple Switch From Intel To Arm Processors - How Will The Pro Audio Industry Prepare? | Production Expert
https://www.pro-tools-expert.com/pr...ssors-how-will-the-pro-audio-industry-prepare

Intel Reportedly Confirms Apple's Move To Custom ARM-Based Processors In Future Macintosh Systems
https://www.forbes.com/sites/marcoc...ors-in-future-macintosh-systems/#62cd17af1d30

How the Mac will go ARM | iMore
https://www.imore.com/how-mac-will-go-arm

MacBook move: Apple hires key Arm chip designer, pointing to shift from Intel | ZDNet
https://www.zdnet.com/article/macbo...m-chip-designer-pointing-to-shift-from-intel/

Apple’s move to ARM-based Macs is possible because most users want power more than compatibility – MacDailyNews
https://macdailynews.com/2019/06/21...ost-users-want-power-more-than-compatibility/

Intel Confirms Apple Macs Will Switch to Arm CPUs by 2020, Says Report
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/apple-mac-arm-cpus-2020-intel,38668.html

With huge changes looming, should you avoid buying new Macs? | ZDNet
https://www.zdnet.com/article/with-huge-changes-looming-should-you-avoid-buying-new-macs/

Apple plans to ditch Intel processors on the Mac | Cult of Mac
https://www.cultofmac.com/538829/apple-plans-to-ditch-intel-processors-on-the-mac/

Apple Takes Another Step Towards ARM-based Macs - The Mac Observer
https://www.macobserver.com/link/apple-arm-based-macs/

The following article suggests why it is NOT going to happen:

Why You'll Probably Never Own A Mac With An ARM Processor [Feature] | Cult of Mac
https://www.cultofmac.com/144942/why-youll-probably-never-own-a-mac-with-an-arm-processor-feature/
 

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Um, that last article is from 2012! Much of what it says will happen in in the next few years is laughably wrong in hindsight.

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Too many links to even bother. Overkill or what?
Well, there are some folks who aren't lazy and who like to read things for themselves from multiple authoritative sources.

There are other folks who are smart, and who are good at reading, and who like to have all the information available.

And there are folks who aren't dim who don't need to have things digested for them into simple one or two sentence summaries.

It may be hard to believe, but there are even folks who are grateful when someone provides them with information they may not have known and then goes the extra mile by providing citations.

I apologize if you are none of the above and if I frustrated you. You were not my intended audience.
 

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he's always grumpy, just ignore him.

thanks for the links, I like multiple sources.
 

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What is the big benefit of ARM processors? I always though it was more of a mobile processor.
 

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What is the big benefit of ARM processors? I always though it was more of a mobile processor.
They are commonly used as mobile processors because they have impressively low power requirements. But they can also be very powerful. One company even already uses an ARM processor in their blazingly fast servers.

An ARM processor is a RISC processor, sort of like the PowerPC processor was. They can be made very small, they can be made very fast, they don't use much power, they are very inexpensive to make. And, they have lots of room for further development.

Of very important note, Intel charges Apple hundreds of dollars for each and every processor they sell to them. Apple can make their own ARM processors for only a few dollars each!

What's not to like? :)
 

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What's not to like? :)
I guess that depends on what the trade off is. Are the chips cheaper then Intel or will there be an even more premium fee on Apple products because of the low battery power even small CPU?

How do the speeds compare to intel i5, i7 and i9 chips? Would this lose the ability to run Windows on a Mac as well both virtually and via bootcamp?
 

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Two interesting thoughts:

One is that there have been x86 emulators for ARM around for decades. So the transition to ARM should be seamless. Older Intel programs should run just fine under emulation.

Two...I'm wondering if, since ARM is a RISC processor like PowerPC, if all of the old PowerPC programs can therefore be easily ported to ARM?
 

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Two interesting thoughts:

One is that there have been x86 emulators for ARM around for decades. So the transition to ARM should be seamless. Older Intel programs should run just fine under emulation.
I’m pretty sure last year Microsoft announced full Windows 10 installation/compatibility was coming for ARM processors and not just an RT version.

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Two...I'm wondering if, since ARM is a RISC processor like PowerPC, if all of the old PowerPC programs can therefore be easily ported to ARM?
I doubt it. The two processors likely have different instruction sets and numbers of registers. Apparently endianess though isn’t a concern with ARM as that can be configured, so that’s one area that wouldn’t be a problem since PowerPCs were big endian.
 

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I agree

They are commonly used as mobile processors because they have impressively low power requirements. But they can also be very powerful. One company even already uses an ARM processor in their blazingly fast servers.

An ARM processor is a RISC processor, sort of like the PowerPC processor was. They can be made very small, they can be made very fast, they don't use much power, they are very inexpensive to make. And, they have lots of room for further development.

Of very important note, Intel charges Apple hundreds of dollars for each and every processor they sell to them. Apple can make their own ARM processors for only a few dollars each!

What's not to like? :)
If you haven’t heard Apple has very much optimism in ARM instead of Intel!
 
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