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Who here is running it, and with what access point/router?? I was just in a neighboring forum, and I'm reading some bad news/nightmares about the AE and it's compatibility with other units. Would love to hear testimonials - sorta polling as I'll be forced to use one on my next lap...

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I've got AE in my 12" PB. I'm using a D-Link wireless router which is plugged into my DSL modem.

I've also used my AE card on a non-AE airport hub without any difficulties.
 

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12" Al Powerbook with A'port Extreme card, older D-Link 614+ WiFi router, Bell ADSL modem, Dell Inspiron 8200 laptop /w 802.11b wireless card, G4 350Mhz tower CAT5 to router....all playing happy together.
 

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Hello,

I use an AE with my PB G4 17 and an old A base. In the family network I've also 1 IBook orange with an A card, 1 IBook snow with an A card, 1 Titanium with an A card and 2 PC with Peabird Wifi cards.

No problem, every body communicate and can use the two printers.

Although, it seems that power of AE is less than old A card.
 

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I use an AE card in my 1 Ghz - 12.1" G4 Powerbook.

I have a D-Link DI-604 Broadband Router and a matching

D-Link DWL-900AP+ Wireless Access Point.

Runs smooth as frog's hair!

 

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I have a Airport Extreme and Airport Cards running on a Linksys Wireless G access point. 0 Problems.
 

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OK.. Not sure why I'm hearing these comments. I'm reading about signal drops, low signal reception and bandwidth. But is there anyone out there with NetGear router??

FR, you mentioned that you were getting some lower speeds/power?? As tu des détailles?? ;)

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12-inch 867 AlPB, w/AE card.

Base station is a NetGear WGR-614 Router/54g AP, using 1126 firmware which support Burst Packet transmission mode.

The PC has a D-Link G-Extreme 108g PCI card.
All three talk together with no problems.

In fact, my ex-15" Titanium with old AirPort card and Belkin 11b AP/Router had a very limited range. With Belkin AP on 2nd floor office, the 15-Titanium could not be used anywhere on first floor.

With the NetGear WGR-614 and AE, I can use the AE-12" AlPB anywhere on the 1st floor.

In most cases, except for the 15-inch Titanium which was reknown for a short reception capability, the issue of 'WiFi range' lies within the Access Point (ie: base station). Many firms use dinky and fixed low-dB antennas with low-power transmitter. The WGR-614 has low-dB Fixed (cannot be unscrewed) antennas, but several other brands have antennas which can be removed (including a higher-end NetGear and D-Link) and replaced with much more capable dB antenna(s).

If range/reception strength is of importance to you (ie: one AP for 2-storey house), then you may want to consider an Access Point with an external antenna option (such as the more expensive Apple AirPort Extreme Basestation w/ Antenna port). However, again, there are several strength antennas on the market, and even more confusing, about 2 dozen gender-specific antenna connector standards.
eBay is a great place to buy antennas, and there's tons of retailers that accept paypal and eShopping etc that sell antennas of varying power, and purposes. There's 'OmniDirectional', which means that the signal radiates outward from the antenna, like waves from a rock dropped into a pond, and the signal drops down from the antenna location/height, the further away from the antenna, and there's a Directional antenna, which targets a tight-angle cone in one direction only. The latter is a bit more secure, but precision may work against you in a home environment.

Last but not least, as stated, most AP/Router antennas are about -4dBA in power, and some are -6 or -8dBA in power. Others have two, etc. Ideally, you'll want to aim for a -6 to -10, but you could look at getting a -12 to -18dBA external antenna kit. I have a -16dBA antenna that I hookup from time to time, jacked into the NetGear via a series of rather expensive gender-bending cables and pigtails. A pigtail is the cable that goes between the antenna and the connector on the AP or card. They're gold plated, shielded, and cost about $50 US. Ka-ching, but it can help extend, with a good antenna (which can cost $40 to $1000) your signal from 20 feet in a heavily walled abode to over 500 feet in an building and up to several miles in open air.

Anyways, I'm rambling on here, but it should give you something to consider, as the laptop/desktop computer's WiFi card is only as good as the base station's or Access Point's antenna(s).

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Ah also, I forgot to mention that increasing range on your Access Point has one down side - security. You're essentially broadcasting your network to many more homes, people, business etc depending on where you live. The issue of security becomes even more critical, so if you do extend your range (and even if you don't), you should enable either WEP (wired equivalency protection) encryption, MAC Address Control Lists (which only allow access to your WiFi WAN if your AE's MAC Address is in this list located inside the Access Point's PSRAM), and/or hide the name of SSID and/or separate the AP from the Router and place the AP behind your firewall.
 

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Yes M. OHenry,

I have details (détails en français).

Using an IBook snow and a Titanium at the same distance from Airport Base, I got 5/5 reception level with IBook and only 2/5 with Titanium.

The two antenas of the Titanium are too small and seems to be obstructed by frame. The new PB G4 17 is a little better but not so good than IBook snow, perhaps the couple Airport base and Airport Extrem card is not a great choice.
 

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Ohenri - I'm using a MR814v2 Netgear router with Airport Extreme and it works flawlessly when the Dell isn't turned on (see some other threads about wireless routers in the Mac Help & Troubleshooting forum and the Anything Mac area also).

Apple's implementation of some WiFi features is a little weird, but you just have to know what you are supposed to enter and where.
 

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Thanks cats...

The deal was more in trying to see how the AE Card was working with 3rd party AP/routers. Like I said, hearing tales of low bandwidth/signal drops etc.. was making me a litlle unquiet. Oh, seems like Neil (thanks), Chealion and I have the same set-up sans the 'g' card, so that's good to hear.

Chealion, I'll take a look around - sounds odd :confused: ??

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I have an AE card in my 12" PB G4... I tried it unsuccessfully with a Linksys 802.11b router... went out and replaced it with a Linksys 802.11g router. It worked, but not as well as I had hoped (very unreliable).

Since when I built my house I wired it for ethernet (100BaseT in every room) I didn't see the reason for keeping the wireless router... so I returned it.

Now I have an AE card in my machine that I don't even use... so much for wireless at home.
 

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Da_J - that's what I was hearing, so I find it surprising that you've been the only voice of dissent thus far. I'll have to look around some more...

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da_jonesy: would you be interested in selling that Airport extreme card? I'd like to be able to gain internet access while at school, and since U of T won't let me hook up my iBook to the network via an ethernet cable, I have to go wireless. Thanks,

Adam
 

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Yeah... but not at that much of a loss... so I don't know if it would be worth your while.

I have the original recipt and packaging... less than three months old.
 

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Hey h!

I have the Netgear MR814v2 and an airport b card in my Pismo. I have gone up three flights of large stairs, with 4 doors in between and had very INsignificant signal loss. I'm super happy with the ease of use and performance. The netgear imho is one of the nicer looking stations too. Clean, Simple and SMALL. Does what it says!

chad
 
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