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razz said:
So I enter the parking lot from Dufferin and drive towards where Sears is indicated...is that right? Is that where that big "Yorkdale" sign is that you've posted pics of where the line up will be? Or do I go straight towards the 'mall entrance'?
I don't think that I can be any more clear. The mall entrance noted is nestled next to Sears.

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From today's Globe & Mail:
Apple stores pin hopes on ‘genius' staff
By SIMON AVERY
Wednesday, May 18, 2005 Updated at 9:09 PM EDT
From Thursday's Globe and Mail

Apple Computer Inc. hopes to shake up retailing in Canada in the same way it has changed the way consumers listen to music. Its secret weapon? “Genius” sales clerks, which it will have on hand when it opens its first Canadian store on Saturday in Toronto.

The Cupertino, Calif.-based company launched its retail concept four years ago in the United States, believing that the only way to attract more computer users away from Microsoft Corp.'s ubiquitous Windows software to Apple's niche line of products was to create showcase venues where it could control every aspect of the shopping experience.

There are now 100 Apple stores in the United States. The layouts are simple, stylish and expansive and customers of all experience levels can take their queries to “the Genius Bar” where specially trained staff provide answers and solve problems at no charge.

The strategy has already proved to be a big success in the United States, where a higher level of customer service has helped drive sales through the stores. But it has also attracted the ire of resellers of Apple products, who now face a new form of competition and rely on commissioned sales staff who don't have the same amount of time to devote to questions and tips.
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The stores are about more than just selling products, they exist to “drive brand equity,” said Asad Amin, an account manager with NPD Canada, who includes Apple among his clients. With an advice counter, free public Internet access and an up-market setting, the stores have become both knowledge hub and social environment and help drive the “hype-factor” around Apple products, he said.

Company executives declined to be interviewed for this story, but when Apple opened its first two stores in May, 2001, Steve Jobs, co-founder and chief executive officer of Apple, explained the importance of the move this way: “Rather than just hear about megahertz and megabytes, customers can now learn and experience the things they can actually do with a computer, like make movies, burn custom music CDs, and publish their digital photos on a personal website.”

Apple stores look to have been a huge success for the company so far, with sales more than doubling to $1.1-billion (U.S.) in the first half of its fiscal year ended March 26, compared with a year earlier. During that period, Apple increased the number of stores to 103 from 78. Three are in Japan, two in Britain and the remainder across the United States.

But some of the independently owned stores that have traditionally sold Apple's products now feel they are being undercut. More than a few of Apple resellers in the Toronto market are watching the launch this weekend with some trepidation.

“It is very possible for some resellers who have put a lot of money [into inventory] and overextended themselves ... that some businesses may go out in the next year or so,” said Nick Siriopoulos, owner of ClickOn Mac Solutions, a reseller of Apple products in Toronto.

Mr. Siriopoulos said he could see his sales fall almost 10 per cent when Apple opens its store on the other side of the city at Yorkdale Shopping Centre, but he's hoping he can eventually recoup those sales in the form of additional servicing and the sale of peripherals to new customers won over to the Apple line at the company's outlet.

“It makes the competition a bit bigger,” added James Carpenter, retail manager at Computer Systems Centre, which sells Apple products in downtown Toronto. He said he expects to lose some business on smaller purchases, such as iMacs and iPods, but customers buying bigger items such as G5 desktops and large monitors will not be drawn away from his store. Where he can't compete, he admits, is providing free seminars and advice to the public.

“My guys pay their rent or mortgages with their next sale. [Apple stores] have bouncy, young, very enthusiastic Apple evangelists who have the time ... they've just got nothing but time in there,” he said.

Mr. Carpenter said he will have to learn from the Apple outlet in Toronto. But in the United States, numerous vendor partners blame the company for hurting their operations and several former resellers are suing Apple, accusing the company of interfering with their business and giving its own stores preferential treatment.

One challenge for Apple will be managing the new store in a way that doesn't cannibalize sales from existing vendors. The company will have to learn to balance the two lines of businesses, similar to how Sony Corp. has done with its stores, and that means not underselling vendors and not giving Apple stores a first-time advantage on new products, Mr. Carpenter said.

Apple denies that its own stores are hurting the businesses of its channel partners. A “substantial portion” of the company's retail sales are incremental to overall sales, it said in a financial filing.
 
So, on Saturday, how will we know who's from the forum? :)

I'm trying to make it for the 9:30am opening-- I wonder how traffic will be that day? Fill up your gas tanks tonight!
 
What's the point of going to the grand opening so early? Are they going to have these special 'grab bags' that for $250 include twice as much worth of goodies?

Afterall, it's Saturday, so if it's just to be one of the first ones, then there's no point for me, but if there's actually something worth going for special to the first few hundred people or so then I'd like to know.

Thanks!
 
aarplane said:
I believe there was talk of holding an apple (the kind you eat), but nothing really has been said since that post.
Man, I guess no one's in for that idea. Just thought that it was nice and cheap, and just interesting enough to catch the press' attention. ;)

Anyhow, I'll take one with me. SO if anyone sees someone with an apple, check to see if it's me! ;)

** BTW **

Never thought that it would happen, but this thread will likely see 50k views before the opening.

wow.

H!
 
Is it for certain that there will be no special loot bags?
What are the odds..

I'm not a morning person and I can't even fit in those XL shirts worse still no one is crazy enough to come with me at six in the morning.. would i feel like a loser if i was there alone waiting some 4-5 hrs for an apple shirt
 
There's only a slim chance of Lucky Bags being for sale. They had been discontinued after the problems at London's Regent Street opening (queue jumping, confusion, profiteering) and it left a very bad taste in people's mouths.

I'll just say a word of encouragement for those wavering on queuing early. You may not know people beforehand, but you undoubtedly will just as you've come on these forums to join the ehmac community.

It's not all about the t-shirt (although I think that is a badge of honour/testament to perseverance/commemorative souvenir), it's the cameraderie of like minds, those who "Think Different".
 
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Ohenri said:
Never thought that it would happen, but this thread will likely see 50k views before the opening.

wow.

H!
This has to be the largest thread I've ever created! :D

Gmark, awesome job with the pics! It has got me thinking that you just might work for CSIS. ;)

Good luck at the opening!
 
Y'all will have to tell us how busy it is. I don't like waiting or crowds so I plan on heading up with some friends the next Friday since I'll be in Toronto that week on training. I can always slide over to Efston Science too. :)
 
Just a quick note for you guys. I went by there today. The wall that was blocking it is gone and you can see directly into the store. It looks pretty sweet. The staff (i'm assuming it was staff) was there probably training or something.
 
just a quick question too...if i'm going to Yorkdale on Saturday morning, when should i leave so that the line won't get too long...cz i kind of want the t-shrit too. Or if i go the nite before...will i be too late? If i go..i can only take subway (no car)...where should i go once i enter the bridge to the mall? or i shouldn't walk through that bridge and go different direction?

Thank u so much!!
 
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