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Old Jan 9th, 2012, 07:33 PM   #1
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DSLRs a dying breed?

Trey Ratcliff over at Stuck In Customs has a very interesting post arguing mirrorless cameras are the future. He's had a lot of reaction to his post on Facebook, Google+, and on his blog.

I agree that it's just a matter of time and this has made me re-think my purchase plans for lenses. I'm going to seriously consider this before I make any future purchases.

What do you guys think?

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Old Jan 9th, 2012, 08:40 PM   #2
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Well he is probably right. But he doesn't need to invest in more camera equipment because he has everything he needs already. There is not enough of a difference between the D3x he uses to the D4. So he can live and enjoy with what he has because he is at the maximum so no need for him to get the D4.

Versus I am using a D300s currently and want to move up to a full frame camera. So I was looking at the the D4 to move up to, but I think I will pass. So I will take a look at the D800 when it comes out. I could sit out and wait for these "3rd generation" cameras but I enjoy taking pictures
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Old Jan 10th, 2012, 05:17 PM   #3
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Too many photographers have too much invested in their existing kits, all that glass and accessories, for mirrorless to take over mirrored DSLR's anytime soon. They are still a niche product and will remain so for quite some time to come IMO.
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Mirrorless has a long way to go. SONY's latest flagship biggie loses more than a stop of light due to the electronic viewfinder.

With photographers paying hundreds more for lenses that offer 1/2-1 stop extra, losing a stop due to the camera is absolutely ridiculous.

Also, there are no full frame mirrorless cameras. Their sensors are too small to compete when it comes to depth of field, noise, high ISO performance and large mp files.

It's a cool concept, but we are a few years away from them standing major ground. Lots of pieces of the tech need to improve.
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Old Jan 10th, 2012, 08:47 PM   #5
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I have a mirrorless camera and it's ok. The lenses also have a way to go yet before they catch up to my DSLR glass. But I can put my old FD and Leica glass on it which makes it interesting. Overall though not there yet but who knows I seem to recall having a discussion about digital vs film and now we see where that has wound up but for now they just can't match the DSLR kit I work with.

As OK mentions the sensor size limits their abilities in terms of low light, and resolution. Size is a bonus, at least with the little camera I have which is the GF2 Panasonic but the std kit lens is not terribly useful at 14-42mm (28-84) and a bit slow. Using my old Canon FD 50 f1.2L makes things interesting but still not on par with my 5D MKII and 7D.
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Old Jan 10th, 2012, 09:40 PM   #6
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Mirrorless has a long way to go. SONY's latest flagship biggie loses more than a stop of light due to the electronic viewfinder.
with Sony SLTs the translucent mirror blocks a 1/3 of a stop of light - not more than a stop - and the in camera stabilization compensates for that with any lens mounted on it.

as for the other points :

- the sony alpha SLTs use the same glass that their older DSLR's use. I imagine as other companies jump on the bandwagon the same thing will happen. There is no need to make a new mount if they keep the same form factor.

- The current alpha SLTs have APS-C size sensors (which is what the majority of DSLRs use) I'm sure eventually Sony will introduce a full frame model.

I don't think the death of the current DSLR is here upon us, but i do think the writing is on the wall.
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Old Jan 10th, 2012, 10:03 PM   #7
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Sure...but when and for whom?

Technological advancements may one day replace the SLR paradigm and come up with a 5mm-1000mm 1.0 lens for a xxxxx frame camera, but until then, I'll stick with my full frame dSLR with interchangeable glass.
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Old Jan 11th, 2012, 12:26 PM   #8
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Most point and shoot cameras still have a very tiny sensor, roughly 4.25x5.5mm. Actual image capture is 2-3MP. Despite the image size being less than half the area of the 6x8mm image of the old Kodak disc camera, these cameras produce remarkably good images and in a compact size that allows you to take these cameras every where. These are more than adequate for 95% of the amateur market. I have two very different cameras of this type and really only wish I had a DSLR when attempting moon shots or when I need to use an external flash. Since neither is routine I won't be shelling out the big bucks for a DSLR any time soon.

The DSLR has an image size of 12x16mm. For bigger enlargements, cropping to the max, extreme closeups, and/or external flash, the DSLR is absolutely the way to go. Greater focus control and faster or longer lenses are also extremely useful to some photographers. OTOH Not really a camera that can be tucked into a jacket pocket.

To me what is missing is a camera with a sensor size roughly 7.5x10mm. Does not really need the mirror and prism bit but does require something better than sunlight viewing of an LCD screen. Interchangeable lenses would be nice but most critical is a manual override of focus. It should be possible to put these out with reasonably good optics in the $300-$400 range and to keep them a good deal more compact than a typical DSLR. Any more than $400 and the only reason to buy one is if small size is the only factor in choosing a higher resolution camera. Rather than making a dozen very similar cameras, a camera maker should go with just one or two in this line but try to make them as pro/semi-pro friendly as possible.
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Old Jan 11th, 2012, 01:22 PM   #9
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Personally in terms of size I don't really see that much advantage to a mirrorless multi-lens system, it is still too big to put in a pocket and if you have more than one lens and a flash and other accessories you still need a camera bag. Sure it may be a smaller and lighter bag but it still means you have to carry a bag around.
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personally in terms of size i don't really see that much advantage to a mirrorless multi-lens system, it is still too big to put in a pocket and if you have more than one lens and a flash and other accessories you still need a camera bag. Sure it may be a smaller and lighter bag but it still means you have to carry a bag around.
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