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Old Jul 21st, 2011, 01:15 PM   #1
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Anyone try Lion Server?

Has anyone taken the plunge yet? I actually setup a VMWare virtual machine last night and installed Lion into it (not yet supported, requires some hoop jumping but seems to run fine) ... but when I tried to purchase Lion Server from it ... it told me that it wasn't able to install. Not sure if it's missing requirements or if I need to fiddle more with my VM (I'm going to move it to another machine today that has much more ram available and see what happens).
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Old Jul 21st, 2011, 04:51 PM   #2
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Old Jul 21st, 2011, 07:42 PM   #3
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Yep looks like we're stuck until they sort things out. I was also wondering if it wasn't the way it identifies the CPU (the App Store that is) as in VMWare the CPU's come up as unknown and the Server app requires specific processor types.

I don't have a spare machine to install onto right now to test with so I guess I'm going to either have to spare up a machine to test or wait :/
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Old Jul 21st, 2011, 08:28 PM   #4
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FWIW, I'm staying away from Lion Server.

When my mini gets upgraded, it'll be to a CentOS or Debian server.
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Old Jul 21st, 2011, 08:34 PM   #5
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FWIW, I'm staying away from Lion Server.

When my mini gets upgraded, it'll be to a CentOS or Debian server.
I run a CentOS server here too, but I actually use a lot of the OSX Server stuff (iCal server, Open Directory, VPN, Netboot, AFP, SMB). Some (probably most actually) can be done in Linux but tend towards being a lot of work to maintain and/or fix, not packaged up so nicely with one button to turn them on like OSX server has. Depends what you need to do I guess, but either way I'll have to support it as well so not much choice but to learn it .. and what better way than running it
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Old Jul 22nd, 2011, 11:09 AM   #6
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Currently have a test copy running at work and my home computer for giggles - and it's a big change from Snow Leopard Server in terms of management tools. There's lot of good changes under the hood and some a lot of people won't like.

Things worth mentioning:

- Profile Manager (MDM Server) is really neat. Worked great at work but at home I had all kinds of certificate issues.
- Push notifications. For mail, iCal and Address Book. I'm looking forward to the day I can upgrade work's server so it supports this. It's AWESOME.
- The new Server app - it grows on you. It's Server Preferences updated to suck a lot less. It's no Server Admin however.
- Server Admin is just a shell of it's former self.
- MySQL isn't installed by default. I never used the default install anyway.
- Server.app's configuration for Web is laughably simple. If you're wanting to configure web sites you're going to the command line.
- Several services are not GUI configurable anymore (eg. FTP which is turned off, NFS)
- No more QuickTime Streaming Server.
- The amount of know how and ease to make a new server that just does file sharing, calendars and an MDM server for small businesses? It takes 15 minutes and it walks you right through it.

I highly recommend checking out AFP548's videos on Lion Server. The one showing off Server.app shows it actually has most of the day to day things you'll actually care about.
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Old Jul 22nd, 2011, 12:52 PM   #7
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Thanks Chealion. I watched their videos yesterday. I also figured out a way to get it installed here at home as well, will be doing that over the weekend.

I've never (seriously) used the MySQL of web portions of OSX server and when I did try to it wasn't with the built-in stuff because it was too limiting, missing important things, etc.
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Old Jul 22nd, 2011, 11:55 PM   #8
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I bought the new Mac Mini Lion Server yesterday for my home office. Ran the initial setup and seemed pretty easy and intuitive, will have more time to dive deeper in a few weeks. This is my first attempt in running a Mac server since the ASIP days!
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Old Aug 16th, 2011, 10:25 AM   #9
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How is Lion server at hosting multiple domains, eg newsroom.com/newsroom.net/kevinomura.com etc.

Basically only need web services and maybe email through multiple domains
at the same static IP address. I am just messing up my new SL server and
have the option of upgrading to Lion and Lion Server through the Lion up to date program. Already qualified and have my codes to purchase but am struggling here.
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