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Moscool Feb 17th, 2016 09:07 AM

More Adobe shenanigans... Any good alternative to Acrobat Pro?
 
I'm still fuming from my interactions with Adobe of the last 48 hours :mad:

Adobe has declared EOL on pretty much anything that is not CC and so it broke (or more accurately didn't fix) multiple problems in Acrobat Pro X due to the switch to El Cap. Apparently they fixed Acrobat 11, belatedly.

They are offering an upgrade route for a king's ransom: about C$400 (tax included) to get to DC Pro. This is where the fun begins: Having (very reluctantly) accepted to swallow this bitter pill, I paid for the upgrade, except that not all versions of Acrobat X are created equal! If you purchased it as part of CS5.5 (which I did), then it is not upgradable. Read this carefully again: a perfectly legal, registered copy of Acrobat Pro cannot be upgraded because it was part of a bundle! :ptptptptp

(oh and they want C$1000 for the full version)

SO...

I use Acrobat mainly to scan, combine files and reduce their size. Typically I will scan to TIFF and let Acrobat operate its magic. An important feature of size reduction while retaining good quality is OCR: the ClearScan fonts make a real difference. But that's not worth C$1k !!!

Any alternatives to the bloodsucking monopolists? PDFs created from scanners at typically very large and I find Preview pretty useless at size reduction/quality preservation (either from and image or from a PDF).

Thanks!

Grazer5 Feb 26th, 2016 10:53 AM

You could try opening the scans in Pages??

John Clay Feb 26th, 2016 11:22 AM

pdfPen seems promising, but I don't like that they're using a cloud OCR service rather than processing the files on the computer.

https://smilesoftware.com/PDFpen

Moscool Feb 29th, 2016 01:57 PM

Thanks

Just discovered that VueScan had OCR and I have a full license. Will run a test regarding file size later...

polywog Feb 29th, 2016 02:34 PM

Not sure about the other functionality, but I have used this application with success several times for reducing the size of a PDF.

https://panic.com/blog/shrinkit-1-2/

And... you'll like the price.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moscool (Post 2160138)
I'm still fuming from my interactions with Adobe of the last 48 hours :mad:

Adobe has declared EOL on pretty much anything that is not CC and so it broke (or more accurately didn't fix) multiple problems in Acrobat Pro X due to the switch to El Cap. Apparently they fixed Acrobat 11, belatedly.

They are offering an upgrade route for a king's ransom: about C$400 (tax included) to get to DC Pro. This is where the fun begins: Having (very reluctantly) accepted to swallow this bitter pill, I paid for the upgrade, except that not all versions of Acrobat X are created equal! If you purchased it as part of CS5.5 (which I did), then it is not upgradable. Read this carefully again: a perfectly legal, registered copy of Acrobat Pro cannot be upgraded because it was part of a bundle! :ptptptptp

(oh and they want C$1000 for the full version)

SO...

I use Acrobat mainly to scan, combine files and reduce their size. Typically I will scan to TIFF and let Acrobat operate its magic. An important feature of size reduction while retaining good quality is OCR: the ClearScan fonts make a real difference. But that's not worth C$1k !!!

Any alternatives to the bloodsucking monopolists? PDFs created from scanners at typically very large and I find Preview pretty useless at size reduction/quality preservation (either from and image or from a PDF).

Thanks!


Moscool Feb 29th, 2016 03:58 PM

Thanks polywog.

I like Panic, I've been buying Transmit for eons (although these days I rarely use stand alone FTP). Nice attitude.


UPDATE: tried it out on a variety of files... no success: the files are not shrinking and therefore don't get saved

OldeBullDust Mar 6th, 2016 11:14 AM

I don't know if this will meet your needs, but I saw this app on the Apple App Store site, it appears to do what you want and it's FREE!

PDF OCR X Community Edition

I have not tried it out, I do not have any interest in the company or product, I just think it might solve your problem.

Have a good day

Moscool Mar 6th, 2016 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldeBullDust (Post 2176378)
I don't know if this will meet your needs, but I saw this app on the Apple App Store site, it appears to do what you want and it's FREE!

PDF OCR X Community Edition

I have not tried it out, I do not have any interest in the company or product, I just think it might solve your problem.

Have a good day

Looks good. The full version is needed to go beyond 1 page. Expensive but not stupid. I'll have to run a comparison test between the various apps and post it here...

polywog Mar 7th, 2016 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moscool (Post 2171274)
Thanks polywog.

I like Panic, I've been buying Transmit for eons (although these days I rarely use stand alone FTP). Nice attitude.


UPDATE: tried it out on a variety of files... no success: the files are not shrinking and therefore don't get saved

Likewise, that and Coda. Although I'm a little miffed that Transmit for Mac STILL doesn't have panic sync, over a year later. Seems to me that could have been slightly higher priority than backing a game...

Moscool Mar 14th, 2016 07:09 PM

Update on file sizes using different methods
 
I finally got around to testing a mixed page (typed text + lots of handwritten notes). Here we go:

1) Pure TIFF:

- Canon scanner, native software, 300 dpi, 24 bit colour: 16.5 MB
- Canon scanner, VueScan, auto-resolution, 24 bit colour: 4.5 MB

2) TIFF to PDF conversion with Preview:

- First file: dialogue says 2.2 MB, actual is ... 15.3 MB (!!!)
- Second file: dialogue says 0.9 MB, actual is 4.3 MB (!!! again)

- Both files applying 'Reduce Size' filter: produces completely illegible file of 35 kB !!!

Intermediary conclusion: TiFF to PDF not quite the thing baby :baby:

3) Scans to PDF, no OCR

- Canon scanner, native software, 300 dpi, 24 bit colour: 2.2 MB
- Canon scanner, native software, output set to 'document': 1 MB
- Canon scanner, VueScan, auto-resolution, 24 bit colour: 0.9 MB
- Adobe acrobat driving Canon scanner w Descreen function and without OCR: 266 kB

4) Scans to PDF with OCR

- Canon scanner, VueScan, auto-resolution, PDF with OCR: 0.9 MB
- Adobe acrobat driving Canon scanner w Descreen function and with OCR: 475 kB

5) Optimised PDF (Acrobat 9 minimum):

- Adobe acrobat driving Canon scanner without OCR: 266 kB (no change)
- Adobe acrobat driving Canon scanner with OCR: 216 kB

Yes, for the more eagle eyed amongst you, I have managed to get OCR to work on Acrobat again, by standing on the loo on one foot at sunset while sacrificing a chicken :ptptptptp

SO

In terms of quality, what do we have?

- OCR is a given, given its archival/retrieval qualities and almost no impact on file size
- VueScan with OCR is the crispest but still quite large. Excellent OCR.
- Acrobat OCR/optimised is good on printed text but lightweight on handwriting
- So Acrobat OCR/not optimised wins :rolleyes:

Obviously, I could still play around with native resolution on VueScan, but I've already lost the will to live... :D


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