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Old Jun 10th, 2011, 02:05 PM   #1
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Exclamation PowerMac 8500/132 and my MacBookPro

I had a ton of stuff sitting in storage for the last ten years and just now I have been able to access it. Imagine my smile when my old 8500 booted up with no issues. Unfortunately, the CD Drive doesn't work anymore and I'd like to get the files on the old "massive" 1.2 GB harddrive on my more recent MacBookPro.

I went out and bought a crossover ethernet cable but cannot get either computer to show up on either's networks. I'm running Snow Leopard on the Pro and MacOS 9 on the 8500.

I'd rather not take out the drive access the data that way.

Can anyone give me some advice/help?

Thanks!
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Old Jun 10th, 2011, 02:28 PM   #2
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Philip I think taking the drive out would be the best and quickest option as long as you have an enclosure kicking around
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Old Jun 10th, 2011, 05:36 PM   #3
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i do have an enclosure, but i'd still like to leave that as a last resort.
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Old Jun 10th, 2011, 05:46 PM   #4
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The 8500 is probably setup to use Appletalk, but I don't think Appletalk is supported in Snow Leapard (not absolutely sure about this).

I seem to recall that OS9 had the ability to use TCP/IP. Check if there's an option box for this in the Chooser.
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Old Jun 10th, 2011, 06:33 PM   #5
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yes: it does have TCP/IP but for the life of me, even after a google, i cannot figure out the settings.
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Old Jun 10th, 2011, 07:34 PM   #6
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O.K., I just tried this since it's been a long time.

Here's what works:

On your 8500 go to Control Panels and select File Sharing. The file sharing window should come up.

In the section for file sharing there's a little check box you should check to allow TCP/IP. Then click on the button to start file sharing.

Once file sharing has finished starting, and it says File Sharing On, then there should be a new line showing up in the right side of the window that says URL: afp://xxxx/
The xxxx is the computer name. Write down the address afp://xxxx/ since you'll need that address for your MacBook Pro.

Now go to the MacBook Pro and along the top menu bar for the finder there is a menu item called Go. Click on Go, and then select Connect to Server. In the window that comes up, type in the afp://xxxx/ address that you wrote down from your 8500. Then click on the Connect button.

Your 8500 hard drive should now show up on your MacBook Pro. Now you can transfer files to and from your 8500 drive to the MacBook Pro.
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Old Jun 11th, 2011, 12:43 AM   #7
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It's been a while ... but as MacOS 9 and hopefully updated is installed on the 8500, and just using a "normal" ethernet cable to a local ethernet router or hub, there should be a "network access" option under the Apple menu on the 8500 to connect to the also ethernet connected MBP, and the MBP should show up as a choice to connect to for a local connected Mac.

Don't try using the MBP running Mac OS X.x to connect to the 8500 as it often will NOT work.

Access the 'local' MBP Mac OS X.x from and using the 8500's "Network Access" instead and you'll have much better success to get the files you want transferred to the MBP.

And don't ask me why it usually works this way and/or why a OS X Mac can't often recognize or access a OS 9 PPC Mac when an older PCC and its OS can access a later OS X Intel Mac.
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I remember doing this with my G3 and os9 and after I figured how how to see it with the 0sx computer I had no problem getting stuff off it. I think like Rob said it was as easy as just typing in the address it gave.
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It's not going to happen

I believe that you will need a machine that runs Leopard or Tiger to directly network. Snow Leopard does not work.

Alternately, set up some sort of FTP facility between the two over your local network. I have not done this so I cannot provide details.

Your internal hard drive is SCSI. I don't know how many pins. Good luck moving it.

The simplest solution may in the end be to hook the 8500 up to your network, install an email client and email yourself the files. The specs page I looked at says it has a base 10T ethernet connection.

Good luck
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Old Jun 11th, 2011, 06:51 AM   #10
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O.K., I just tried this since it's been a long time.

Here's what works:

On your 8500 go to Control Panels and select File Sharing. The file sharing window should come up.

In the section for file sharing there's a little check box you should check to allow TCP/IP. Then click on the button to start file sharing.

Once file sharing has finished starting, and it says File Sharing On, then there should be a new line showing up in the right side of the window that says URL: afp://xxxx/
The xxxx is the computer name. Write down the address afp://xxxx/ since you'll need that address for your MacBook Pro.

Now go to the MacBook Pro and along the top menu bar for the finder there is a menu item called Go. Click on Go, and then select Connect to Server. In the window that comes up, type in the afp://xxxx/ address that you wrote down from your 8500. Then click on the Connect button.

Your 8500 hard drive should now show up on your MacBook Pro. Now you can transfer files to and from your 8500 drive to the MacBook Pro.
I guess it wasn't clear from my post that I have verified this to work on real machines. It wasn't just speculation. I was using a PM 9600 running OS9.1, and a MacBook running Snow Leopard.
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