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Old May 29th, 2003, 05:22 PM   #1
 
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I am having problems with my beige G3 crashing and now I have lost some of my control panels among other things.

I am using my hard drive from an iMac. Now might be a good time to do a clean install (which I don't know how to do) but all I have is CD for an iMac. Can I use that, will it work or maybe just end up with same old problem?

Any suggestions for a poor old grandmother from G-town?
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Old May 29th, 2003, 07:12 PM   #2
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Yes, it might be wise to do a clean install since the iMac and a beige G3 are different enough to cause problems.
What version of the operating system came with your iMac (OS9, OS 8.6, other)?
When you start to install check all the windows carefully. There is usually a button that says options or custom. One of these should give you a choice to do a clean install. As long as you have enough space on your hard drive (about 500MB free), it shouldn't be a problem. A clean install will not delete your original system folder. So it will still be there if things go wrong with the new system.

Another possibility is that your hard drive is failing. If the drive from the iMac is a few years old now then it may be starting to fail. Does the drive seem noisier than before (clacking, rattle)?
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Rob, thanks for your reply. The iMac was used and I had a new 10 G hard drive put in about
1 1/2 years ago, OS 9.2.2 so I have lots of space.

I guess with a clean install, that removes everything else I have doesn't it?
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A clean install doesn't delete anything, it just creates a new system folder. Your old system folder will still be there but it will be renamed as previous or old system folder (I can't remember which).

The problem is getting all your third party extensions, control panels, and preferences into the new system folder (but only if absolutely necessary). If you aren't using a lot of specialty software this may not be necessary. In fact, some of those old extensions and control panels may be part of the original problem.

Some of the things that will likely need to be transferred are your email and internet files if they are stored in the system folder. Sometimes these are stored in the preferences folder within the system folder (older Netscape). I'm not sure where Outlook Express and IE save files.

If you are familiar with what is stored in the Control Panels, Extensions, and Preferences folders then it usually isn't too hard to get needed old files transferred over to the new system folder. If you are not into this kinda stuff then it will likely be a frustrating experience.

If my reply leaves you overwhelmed then you are going to need someone to help you do this properly. It's not really the type of thing that can be handled on a discussion board since there are too many variables.

Maybe there is another kind soul in Georgetown who can provide some personal assistance. If not, then you might have to go the professional route, and pay for some help. Did you buy your iMac or G3 from a retailer? If so, maybe they could help.
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There is a great piece of software called Diskwarrior. This is a repair utility that fixes your directory. Many, many, many problems are due to a corrupt directory structure. Each time your system crashes there is more potential for directory damage. With each crash the damage compounds and the frequency increases.

Before you try a clean install you might want to get a copy of Diskwarrior. Unfortunately, it isn't free, but it is the one repair utility that everyone should have.

I think it costs about $120
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This may be completely off base, but the only time I had an issue with things disappearing (in my case I remember apple menu items disappearing) it was due to bad RAM. I hesitate to give any technical advice, but your post reminded me of that situation so I thought I would throw this in anyway. Good luck!
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Jeac5, I considered bad ram but don't know how you can test that. Don't know if the fact that the hard drive came from an iMac has any bearing on the fact.

HELP, please, anybody? [img]redface.gif[/img]
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Hi lotus, not sure how you can test for bad RAM either, except maybe to remove it for a short time to see if the problems stop occuring. A bit of a pain, I suppose. Maybe someone else might have a suggestion about how to more easily do this? Or, be able to tell you that it is not likely to be RAM at all.
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jeac5, this has gone from bad to worse. Today this little gem "physco" started connecting to the internet all by itself. Good thing I have unlimited use. My solution is to find some one to look at it and figure out what has gone wrong.

Thanks for your concern. [img]smile.gif[/img]
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Good luck, lotus. I feel for you, having had recent issues myself. See my 'Help! I'm afraid to turn on my computer' thread. It turned out all right for me, though, thanks to a wonderful Mac guy that I found. Still, connecting to the Internet without you, eh? Wonderful.
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