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Old Feb 21st, 2011, 10:08 AM   #81
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Okay, so I'll do this the tedious way... right click on each hyperlink and choose "remove hyperli.... whaaaa? You *can't* remove the hyperlink with a right click? You *must* choose "Edit Hyperlink" and then click "Remove Link" in the window that opens? How unproductively stupid is that?
I have to say that I've never had to do that before (though the first thing I do with a new install of Word is to remove the autoformat of hyperlinks). It must be fairly common, or else that function wouldn't have been included in Pages. Another way would be to copy the text and paste as unformatted text. Not as convenient as the Pages way, but might result in fewer clicks (I placed a "Paste Special" button on my menu bar, since I use it to frequently).
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Old Feb 21st, 2011, 04:34 PM   #82
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Today's annoyance: Spellcheck. It finds a questionable word, but it's something that you want Word to simply ignore. So - click on "Ignore", right? But the damn thing just sits there, with the same word highlighted. Sometimes two clicks will make it move on. Sometimes TWENTY. Sometimes it won't move at all... you can hit "Ignore all" and then it will continue. Or not.

Sometimes "Ignore All" won't do it, so you end up ping-pong-clicking between "Ignore" and "Ignore all" in order to make the %^&*( thing progress through the document, whether you do or not want to truly "Ignore all".

SERIOUSLY. WHO THE H*** THOUGHT THIS THING WAS READY TO BE SHIPPED?

Since I installed it there have been two 100-megabyte+ updates. I have no idea what those updates did, because they certainly haven't improved the many, many issues mentioned in this thread. I think it's, like, 200 megs of new ways to annoy the heck out of the user...
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Old Mar 4th, 2011, 10:19 PM   #83
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I currently use MS Office 2004.
Sounds as if that office suite will no longer work with Leo since it's a PPC application.
So I was going to shell out the bucks for Office 2011 until I read this thread.
Is Office 2008 a better way to go?

I also have iWork and use that occasionally and I just downloaded the latest version of NeoOffice plus the latest patch.
But the first Word document I opened with NeoOffice had a number of problems with it, so NeoOffice is still not a good option for me.
I actually get very similar problems opening that document with Pages - only Word 2004 will open it correctly.

The page btw is a simple monthly calendar, nothing fancy. Where NeoOffice and Pages fall down are the following:

1. They both insert two additional horizontal lines where there shouldn't be any
2. I imported one simple icon into the calendar that neither NeoOffice nor Pages shows
3. A number of Email addresses in the calendar are clickable links; NeoOffice doesn't recognize any of them and Pages only recognizes the ones outside the calendar proper that are listed in a note below the calendar.
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krs, you may want to read through the blog by Pierre Igot (Betalogue) - he's a writer / translator / much more who has been documenting his experiences with Word and the issues that arise in moving between Word and Pages.
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Old Mar 5th, 2011, 02:21 PM   #85
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Thanks for the link C-M.
The message I took away is to stay away from Office 2011 as far as possible.
Which puts me in a quandary.
The previous version of MS Office for the Mac was Office 2008. But reading a bit more about that, I get conflicting information if Office 2008 requires Rosetta, ie is also a PPC application and therefore doesn't solve my problem whne I move to Lion or if it is a universal binary.
Then somewhere there was a comment that the installer requires Rosetta but the application itself does not.
My head is starting to spin.

Another question, can I have both Office 2004 and Office 2008 on my Mac at the same time?
Some people claim an install of Office 2008 automatically erases Office 2004.
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krs, using that (previously unknown to me) feature in System Profiler to view which apps are still employing PowerPC code, I was surprised to find that even MS Office 2011 ships with a PowerPC-only application (Microsoft Query).

As for having multiple Office installs on your system... no idea. I have kept Office 2008 on my system as a fallback, since 2011 just isn't cutting it... there don't appear to be any conflicts (so far), but I'm not able to say with any certainty that the two suites are using separate library / support files...
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As it's a universal application, I'm quite sure that Office 2008 will work with 10.7. As CubaMark said, there may be components that may not work.

But if you're going to upgrade, there would have to be a very specific reason why you would upgrade from Office 2004 to Office 2008 at this point. Think about your workflow and whether any elements might have been improved (or ruined) with the new version. For example, if you use an Exchange server, 2011 is a must. But if you rely on syncing a mobile device to a Google calendar, stay away from Outlook 2011. If you frequently collaborate with PC Office users, you might want to stay more current; I have found that compatibility between platforms has been improving.

Yes, 2011 has its annoyances, many of which have been described in this thread. But as a whole, it's an improvement over Office 2008. I use these applications all day every day (sucks to be me!) and the switch resulted in trading in one set of annoyances for another.

If you're moving from 2004 to 2011 and you have a newer computer with lots of memory, you'll see a noticeable improvement in performance. That alone might be worth it for you.
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Microsoft has released Service Pack 1 for Microsoft Office 2011.

It promises, among other things, "improved functionality with find & replace" -> I hope that means F&R actually works now.

But - I'm rather annoyed. It's an update to Microsoft Office. WHY does the installer tell me it can't continue until I quit Word (really, can't it do that by itself?) and more oddly, Safari. Why the heck should I quit Safari for an MS Office update?
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Microsoft has released Service Pack 1 for Microsoft Office 2011.
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But - I'm rather annoyed. It's an update to Microsoft Office. WHY does the installer tell me it can't continue until I quit Word (really, can't it do that by itself?) and more oddly, Safari. Why the heck should I quit Safari for an MS Office update?
I'm not surprised by any software update having to quit the application that's about to be updated - sorta like trying to change a tire on a car travelling down the highway at 80 klicks that still has the tire/wheel in use.

But I'll agree and it is amazing to me regarding some of the various recent application updates that obviously seem to need to add some hooks etc. into one's "non-associated applications" such as Safari and Mail and others to get the update to work.

And not always an easy method to find out what other "extra" stuff was actually installed that could affect other non-related software applications.

The "must quit Safari or other application" notice before installing some other application update really does make me question the update and/or the logic of having to do so.
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So - another Microsoft Office 2011 Security Update (sigh - why is it that the only thing that worries me about security on my Mac is Microsoft software?)... and yet another request (no, an ORDER) to "Quit these running applications" so the installer can continue.

WHY THE F%^&*(^% do I have to quit SAFARI to install an update to MS OFFICE?

There *is* a Microsoft Support document on this topic... which doesn't tell you WHY, it just shows you how to use the Mac's Activity Viewer to force-quit applications. Stupid Microsoft.
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