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Old Oct 10th, 2002, 02:55 AM   #1
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I'm confused! I thought that a pismo with G3 500 mhz and 512 megs ram would be very fast running Jaguar. What are your speeds like? In Spark (audio app) it craps out on me with all kinds of errors when running f/x, opening apps is terribly slow, loading menus takes seconds, not split seconds, starting up sometimes takes a really long time, logging in, etc etc. Is this normal for this machine?

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Old Oct 10th, 2002, 04:07 AM   #2
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Old Oct 10th, 2002, 05:00 AM   #3
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Well, every iBook I have looked at (including my Son of Pismo) run Shaguar like a dream, but I have heard of a few problem with Pismo owners (read: macnutt) having some minor issues with 10.2......

Question: did you do a clean install, an archive and install, or an upgrade install? If you answered B or C, then you might solve your problems by re-installing with method A. A never welcome task, but you'd be suprised the speed difference when working with a totally clean install.

Also, when was the last time you de fragmented the HD? Ran update_prebinding? ran fsck?

All of these will impact performance to verying degrees.

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Just a quick addition to my last post,

I recently used Norton Utilities to do a full disk optimisation (the kind that requires you boot from the CD) and it cut a good chunk of time out of my startup and **** down.
My disk had become severly fragmented since the last time I optimised it just a few short months ago, I am guessing that the UNIX swap files that OS X uses had fragmented the parts of the disk that the system resides on or something to that effect.

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Old Oct 10th, 2002, 03:56 PM   #5
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Jaguar runs very well on my Pismo. Did have a few hiccups (slowdowns mainly) just after installing it but these were apparently due to some 'third party' apps that needed updating to be fully compatible with Jag (FruitMenu, WindowShade and some menu bar stuff). After the updates (and installation of Unsanity's Menu Extra Enabler) things got quite snappy.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR> PosterBoy:

Ran update_prebinding? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Supposedly prebinding in Jag is now handled 'automatically' (by installers) and it isn't necessary to dlo it manually.

But, one thing that has helped some Jag users to speed up things is repairing permissions. Start up from the Jag install disk and run Disk Utility > First Aid > Repair permissions and restart. That might help. Just make sure you don't re-install Jag at the same time!

I also run MacJanitor once a week to do its daily/weekly chores and at the end of the month for its monthly clean-up. I have no idea whether this actually does any good at all, but my set-up is very stable.
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Old Oct 10th, 2002, 06:59 PM   #6
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Ahh yes, the maintainance regimen to keep OS X running like a top. I'd like to stress that all of this is not really required, but it certainly helps a whole heck of a lot, similar to rebuilding desktop files and pram zapping that helps when you do it regularly (like once a month or so).

If you use classic a lot, or even just a litle, rebuilding your classic desktop helps a lot. You can do this through your Classic System PreferencePane.

Repairing Permissions helps A LOT. Can be accomplished through the DiskUtility app, and helps even more if you restart from a Jaguar Boot CD to do it.

Running FSCK in a single user environment (resart holding down cmd-s) helps by fixing disk problems. You'd be surprised how many there are after installing an OS update, and even more when your computer freezes beyond belief (such as when you are playing UT on battery power and the computer tries to go to sleep).

DeFragmenting your drive with Norton or Drive 10 will help a lot as well, as OS X likes to swap files out the yin-yang.

The older your system is or the lower spec your system is, the more these will help. My iBook speeds up dramatically when I do these (usually once a month or so), but that is also because I do them all at once usually. On the new PowerMacs, it takes forever for Performance to lag enough for you to notice. On my dad's Beige G3, he should probably be running a few of these more often.

results will also vary, depending on the condition of your system when you start.

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Old Oct 10th, 2002, 08:33 PM   #7
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Wow! Thank you so much for your replies.

First of all, the differences between 10.1.4 and 10.2.1 are virtually unnoticeable. It ran just as slow with 10.1.4. So, I'm going to try the cmd-s thing, and defragging. I did do the upgrade install, but only because I couldn't remember how to do a clean install. So... we'll see if these help.

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Old Oct 10th, 2002, 09:35 PM   #8
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Well, I DEFINATELY need to defrag, as it says its "severe" and it looks it. I suspsected it anyway... BUT, I can't find my Norton cd.. (yes, i bought it) so is there a way I can make a bootable cd with what's on the hd? (the norton folder)
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