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Old Aug 23rd, 2008, 04:36 PM   #1
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Recovering backed up Clarisworks docs for use on iMac

I need to recover past correspondence that was on another computer and will appreciate some advice on how to do it. We used to have a Power Mac 6100/66. Our word processing was done on Clarisworks 3.0. All documents were saved in Clarisworks format. We regularly backed up the documents on to ten floppies using the back up facility of Norton Utilities for Macintosh. We disposed of the 6100/66 but still have the floppies with the saved documents. I have a USB floppy drive that came with a Toshiba laptop.

We recently bought an iMac and would like to access some of the documents from the floppies. How do we do this? I have a copy of Clarisworks 4.0 which should be able to open and read the documents once they are on our new iMac. I also have a copy of NUM 3.5 with which I hoped to be able to recover the documents from the floppy and move them on to the iMac. However, when I inserted the CD I was advised that Classic is not supported by the iMac. It seems there is no backwards compatibility with older software. We have iWork on the iMac but I wonder if this also has no backwards compatibility and will not open Clarisworks documents.

How may I recover the backed up documents from the floppies and have them available for use on the iMac?
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Old Aug 23rd, 2008, 04:50 PM   #2
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Clarisworks gave way to Appleworks. Version 4 is really old, 3 even older! Appleworks 6 was compatible with OSX.

One thing I can suggest is to try to get a copy of Appleworks 6 (the last of that great package), and update to 6.2.9 which still runs on the latest OSX. I think (ttbomk) AW6 can open AW3.

You may be able to extract the text by opening the file in a PURE text editor but, of course, you will lose all formatting. The formatting code will look like a lot of gibberish garbage but you should be able to find the text amongst it.

Unless these docs are mission critical, I would just say "forget 'em".
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Old Aug 23rd, 2008, 05:26 PM   #3
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You're going to need to get a Mac that will run OS 8 or 9, NUM, and has a floppy. No way around it.
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Clarisworks gave way to Appleworks. Version 4 is really old, 3 even older! Appleworks 6 was compatible with OSX.

One thing I can suggest is to try to get a copy of Appleworks 6 (the last of that great package), and update to 6.2.9 which still runs on the latest OSX. I think (ttbomk) AW6 can open AW3.

You may be able to extract the text by opening the file in a PURE text editor but, of course, you will lose all formatting. The formatting code will look like a lot of gibberish garbage but you should be able to find the text amongst it.

Unless these docs are mission critical, I would just say "forget 'em".
What he said. Sinc has confirmed that AppleWorks 6.2.9 still works on the latest Macs. If the USB floppy drive works you are all set.
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What he said. Sinc has confirmed that AppleWorks 6.2.9 still works on the latest Macs. If the USB floppy drive works you are all set.
No, remember that the files are backed up with Norton Utilities for Mac backup. Now it's been way too many years to remember - but - if that is a compressed backup set, the files are unreadable until they are restored with the backup software. The backup software runs only under OS 8 or 9 on a PowerPC machine.
That all has to happen first before the files can be read into Appleworks.

And, its by no means certain that the USB floppy is going to work on an OSX machine.

macosxhints.com - LaCie USB floppy drive support in OS X
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No, remember that the files are backed up with Norton Utilities for Mac backup. Now it's been way too many years to remember - but - if that is a compressed backup set, the files are unreadable until they are restored with the backup software. The backup software runs only under OS 8 or 9 on a PowerPC machine.
That all has to happen first before the files can be read into Appleworks.
Ugh! Yes I also believe that to be correct. So much for proprietary backup solutions. I hope the OP has a copy of the required Norton as it might be hard to find the right version.
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And, its by no means certain that the USB floppy is going to work on an OSX machine.
I've got an Imation USB floppy drive. It works fine with OS X 10.5.4 in a latest-version Intel iMac. No special software required - it just works. Even displays a floppy icon on the desktop.
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Proprietary compressed backups suck.
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Quote: "No, remember that the files are backed up with Norton Utilities for Mac backup. Now it's been way too many years to remember - but - if that is a compressed backup set, the files are unreadable until they are restored with the backup software. The backup software runs only under OS 8 or 9 on a PowerPC machine.
That all has to happen first before the files can be read into Appleworks."

I have tried to avoid the issue but really need some of the files. I was on the point of buying a used Mac when I noticed an emulator called SheepSaver. I get the impression this allows older Mac software to work on an Intel iMac with OS X 10.5.8
Would SheepSaver allow me to run the Norton Utilities for Mac v3.5 backup on our iMac?
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AppleWorks 6 will open those documents from OS 9. Once they have been opened by AppleWorks 6 in OS 9 and saved they will open in AppleWorks 6 in OS X. They will not open directly in OS X

Sadly as mentioned Norton Disk Doubler is proprietary. Had you used Compact Pro or Stuffit there would be fewer issues.
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