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Old Apr 25th, 2005, 03:19 PM   #1
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Question The Mystery of the crashing trash bash...

Hello fellow computer-copers.

I recently found an old copy of Acrobat 5.0 on my drive. I dragged it to the trash and tried to empty it, but my computer (TiBook 1gig) crashed! My first real dark-screen-multi-lingual-notice-type crash since I went to OSX! Same crash when I try to use Onyx to force empty trash. I've tried secure empty too - same thing. Each time I restart and the damn thing's still sitting in the trash. I've had no problems deleting other files and no other notable symptoms of strangeness.

What gives? Any thoughts? Should I try to delete it in Terminal (don't really know how, mind you)? Nuke it with something? It's just sitting smugly on my desktop at the moment. Waiting for me to try again. Sneering. I just know it.

Thanks in advance (as they say)!


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Old Apr 25th, 2005, 03:51 PM   #2
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Fire up Activity Monitor and look for any Adobe things running that may have hooks into the file(s) you're trying to delete.

Look in System Profiler, under "Extensions" and look for anything Adobe-ish that might be clinging to what you're deleting.

Check the permissions & lock status on what you're trying to delete. Anything strange?
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Make sure nothing is locked within the Acrobat folder itself.
If that doesn't work do the following:

1.) Open a terminal session [/Applications/Utilities]
2.) type sudo -s [type in your password when prompted]
3.) cd ~/.Trash
4.) rm -rf *

That will removed everything within the folder that isn't a locked file. If it is a locked file(s) you will have to do the following:

chflags -R nouchg *

Issue this command between steps 3 and 4
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Old Apr 25th, 2005, 05:56 PM   #4
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Hey dthompson101 - you Terminal geek. Y'know Option+Empty Trash still works on those locked files ...
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Hey dthompson101 - you Terminal geek. Y'know Option+Empty Trash still works on those locked files ...

Hmm, learn something new everyday. Thanks :-)
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Old Apr 26th, 2005, 12:55 PM   #6
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Thanks for your suggestions, folks!

Unfortunately, none of the above worked. when I tried to delete via Terminal as suggested above, exicuting the last command caused the dreaded crash again. When I 'get info' on this file, permissions say that I can 'read and write', but that ownership is 'system', and is locked. Though the file itself (check box at the top of info window) is not locked, it seems.

A strange mystery. I suppose I could just leave it tucked somewhere on my drive and forget it, but I wonder what it means and if there might be some other underlying problem. Strange.

Thanks again!
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When I 'get info' on this file, permissions say that I can 'read and write', but that ownership is 'system', and is locked. Though the file itself (check box at the top of info window) is not locked, it seems.
Try this and paste the contents into a new message here:
1.) open terminal session
2.) sudo -s (hit return and type in admin password)
3.) cd ~/.Trash
4.) ls -lo -R * > ~/trash_file.txt (this will create a text file in your home directory)
5.) Open the text file in your home directory and paste the contents of the file into a message here (or email me offline if you'd prefer) so I can have a look at it.

The other thing you can try is to "click on the lock on the get info" and change the owner from system to you

To do this from the terminal, do the following:
1.) sudo -s (hit return and type in admin password)
2.) cd ~/.Trash
3.) chown -R you_user_name (this will change the ownership recursively to you)
4.) chmod -R 770 * (this will change the execution permissions recursively on the folder)
5.) rm -r * (hopefully this will work as well)
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Did you try to delete the trash under terminal ?

sudo -s
rm .Trash
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Hello all,

Thanks again for all of your help. Still no success, however. dthompson101, here is contents of file I generated as per your advice. (By the way, how did you get to be such a Terminal pro?).

total 0
drwxrwx--- 3 root admin - 102 3 Apr 22:39 Contents

Acrobat Reader 5.0/Contents:
total 0
drwxrwx--- 3 root admin - 102 23 Apr 14:35 MacOS

Acrobat Reader 5.0/Contents/MacOS:
total 0
drwxrwx--- 3 root admin - 102 23 Apr 14:35 Resource

Acrobat Reader 5.0/Contents/MacOS/Resource:
total 0
drwxrwx--- 16 root admin - 544 23 Apr 14:35 CMap

Acrobat Reader 5.0/Contents/MacOS/Resource/CMap:
total 242077800
-rwxrwx--- 1 root admin - 10565 29 May 2002 KSC-EUC-H
-rwxrwx--- 1 root admin - 1873 29 May 2002 KSC-EUC-V
-rwxrwx--- 1 root admin - 14777 29 May 2002 KSCms-UHC-H
-rwxrwx--- 1 root admin - 14773 29 May 2002 KSCms-UHC-HW-H
-rwxrwx--- 1 root admin - 1886 29 May 2002 KSCms-UHC-HW-V
-rwxrwx--- 1 root admin - 181397 29 May 2002 KSCms-UHC-UCS2
-rwxrwx--- 1 root admin - 1887 29 May 2002 KSCms-UHC-V
-rwxrwx--- 1 root admin - 11392 29 May 2002 KSCpc-EUC-H
-rwxrwx--- 1 root admin - 16037 29 May 2002 KSCpc-EUC-UCS2
-rwxrwx--- 1 root admin - 149898 29 May 2002 KSCpc-EUC-UCS2C
-rwxrwx--- 1 root admin - 148532 29 May 2002 UCS2-90ms-RKSJ
-rwxrwx--- 1 root admin - 141805 29 May 2002 UCS2-90pv-RKSJ
-rwxrwx--- 1 root admin - 272092 29 May 2002 UCS2-B5pc
-rwxrwx--- 1 root admin - 0 3 Apr 22:40 UCS2-ETen-B5


Anything useful? Can I buy you a beer for this?

thanks!
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