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Old Oct 7th, 2019, 03:55 AM   #1
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SuperDuper - compatible with Catalina?

Does anyone know of SuperDuper will work with Catalina? Meaning, if I back up with SuperDuper on Mojave, will I beable to restore in Catalina?


SuperDuper does show up as 64-bit in system information, but roaringapps.com puts it under "No Infomration Available" rather than "works".


Or do you recommend that I use Time Machine (never used it so far) to back up?


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I back up daily with a clone on an external drive created by Carbon Copy Cloner. I also back up daily on a second external with Time Machine.

When a new OS comes out, ie: Catalina, I always do a nuke and pave by erasing the Mac HD, installing the new OS and then use Time Machine to restore the data from Mojave.

I have always believed it better to use TM to restore rather than the CCC clone as TM to my knowledge has a smaller chance of bringing along any little software issues or unnecessary bits of data.

I assume the same is likely using SuperDuper and should work the same way, as I used to use SD, in the same way, myself years ago without issue.
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Old Oct 7th, 2019, 02:16 PM   #3
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Although posting the question does remind other users of any pending problem, but why not go right to the source and ask them and they seem to have a pretty positive answer:

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Executive Summary: Internally, SuperDuper! can now make bootable copies of "live" Catalina volumes in all three released Beta versions of macOS 10.15. While much work still needs to be done to make things ready for external use, no obstacles are blocking us from pursuing at least one "definitely works" path.
https://www.shirt-pocket.com/blog/

roaringapps.com can't really give a guaranteed answer as Catalina OS X 15 is still in beta development and not even God knows what could change before they release it.


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Although posting the question does remind other users of any pending problem, but why not go right to the source and ask them and they seem to have a pretty positive answer:


https://www.shirt-pocket.com/blog/

roaringapps.com can't really give a guaranteed answer as Catalina OS X 15 is still in beta development and not even God knows what could change before they release it.


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I promise you, I did search Dhirt Pocket for info - but I guess my google-fu was not strong enough to uncover this little tidbit! Thank you


Now, a follow-up question - say I do back-up with SuperSuper; can I still use that back up to, say, use Migration Assistant and select "migrate from a Time Machine Backup"?


I mean, is the data and the say it is copied similar?


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Now, a follow-up question - say I do back-up with SuperSuper; can I still use that back up to, say, use Migration Assistant and select "migrate from a Time Machine Backup"?

I mean, is the data and the say it is copied similar?

My first question would be: Is there really anything special or some new feature you want or must have that is only available in the new Catalina OS X 15???

Even if my 2011 iMac could run Catalina OS X 15, I sure wouldn't be installing it, especially considering their sloppy screwup's in their last few upgrades and updates they've just finished doing. I think they broke all records with that fiasco.

If I was to install it, I would sure be waiting a few weeks before I did so, and with a fresh clean download, If not until their first .1 update, or whatever Update Number they end up giving it.

As to your question, IMHO, I sure wouldn't be using SuperSuper with Catalina, Especially considering the developer hasn't even confirmed that it works with the new Catalina OS X 15.

If you do need a good working backup that does work with the new Catalina OS and that you can trust, I would use Carbon Copy Cloner and you can use it in its free trial mode for quite sometime:
https://bombich.com/

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Old Oct 12th, 2019, 07:00 AM   #6
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My first question would be: Is there really anything special or some new feature you want or must have that is only available in the new Catalina OS X 15???*SNIP*

No, nothing really compelling me, featurewise, to upgrade. I however do have a recurring niggling issue that was not resolved by even a nuke & pave of Mojave - I am hoping that a nuke and pave to Cat might get rid of that issue, that's all.


I have posted about this issue before. I have multiple user accounts on myh iMac; and the Guest user too is enabled.


When I log out of the Guest user, the machine never goes to sleep - not the display not the machine, nothing. However, when I log out of any registered user account, the display and the machine go to sleep quickly.


Multiple levels of experts at Apple hqve looked into it and claim to have never come across such an issue and could not provide a solution other than nuke & pave. And like I said, that too did not solve the issue.


The only thing that did solve the issue (at least temporarily) is to boot into recovery mode and going into terminal and disable System Integrity Protection. Then the machine behaves beautifully.


I am hoping that upgrading to Cat using the nuke & pave method will resolve this issue, that's all. I am worried that an normal (non clean install) will just carry over the issue to Catalina.



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I am hoping that a nuke and pave to Cat might get rid of that issue, that's all.
I would be very surprised if the installation of Mac OS Catalina will solve that problem, but you never know.

I'm a bit surprised as to why you would even be using Guest User which as you have discovered does not work like a normal Mac user account, and a lot of things don't work as expected. As Apple calls it, it's a guest account for a guest or temporary user to use with your Mac computer.

BTW: What happens if you create and log into a new " normal" MacUser, or if you boot up into your own normal username but do so using Safe Boot Mode???

I would have to do some Googling at other sites to see if your problem is actually really a problem, regardless of what the Apple techs have said.

Their recent solution for most Mac OS troubles these days seems to be to do a clean install. Very often an Overkill reaction that often doesn't work.

PS: As the problem only seems to be when using a guest account, why even use it, but if that is a necessity, is it really that hard to click the Sleep option or maybe even create a shortcut using the keyboard press pain and your combination of keys you want to use.

Just a thought or two...

Actually, I would have thought clicking the Sleep option would be similar to locking your home door when you leave the house.

But you might want to play around with your Energy Saver Pref Pane settings, and try setting them to something you do not want and then back to something you do want which can force the settings to update themselves properly.

But I'm sure you probably tried that already. ;-)


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Old Oct 13th, 2019, 04:18 AM   #8
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Yes, I have tried everything you have suggested

Normal user works fine, safe mode or otherwise.

I use guest mode for multiple reasons:

1. To check flight/hotel fares without history being stored, so that websites give me proper un-biased information. Otherwise these sites track you and keep upping the fares etc.

2. To watch some streaming/TV websites that will be prevented from reading previously stored cookies and thereby preventing me from watching (or saying "You have reached your limit of five free articles)" etc.

3. I have extensions/plug-ins on all my browsers - some websites do not play well with those. Such websites will be brosed in the Guest user mode since extensions and plug-ins do not carry over there.

So, having the Guest user is a very convenient necessity for me - one that will NOT be servved by creating another normal user.

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So, having the Guest user is a very convenient necessity for me - one that will NOT be servved by creating another normal user.
Just a thought if you would like to use them, but nearly every browser that I know of has a "safe browsing" or " incognito" option available that disables cookie and site tracking.

PS: Often, browsing cookies is can be quite beneficial and can help you find cheaper prices for most products if you let them do so.


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2. To watch some streaming/TV websites that will be prevented from reading previously stored cookies and thereby preventing me from watching (or saying "You have reached your limit of five free articles)" etc.

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When this happens to me, I just go to Safari>Preferences>Privacy>Manage Website Data and look up the website that stopped me from viewing in the alphabetical list. Simply delete the website and presto, you can get another five free articles. Easy peasy.
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