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Old Jul 15th, 2019, 04:03 PM   #1
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get DV tape video without camcorder?

I have a whole heap of old DV tapes from the good old days of camcorders and firewire cables. I no longer have the camcorder and want to slowly start going through a bunch of these old videos. Is there anything out there that will let me transfer these tapes without Firewire and without a camcorder? I would say I probably have around 30 - 50 DV tapes and guessing that would probably get pretty pricey using a shop that can do the conversation.
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Old Jul 15th, 2019, 04:57 PM   #2
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I had a Sony Hi-8 video recorder and like you had a lot of tapes that I wanted to keep, preserve and watch. My old Hi-8 had been exposed to some salty water and humidity and was no longer working. I ended up buying a used Hi-8 video playback deck and used it to play the video. The hi-8 playback unit had only a coax connector so I had to bridge the output through a device called an "eyeTV" (sold by elgato - www.elgato.com ) which had both a coax and USB port. The USB port was connected to my Mac.

I originally had the elgato box so I could watch cable on my Mac. It worked great when we had a cable service but when we switched to Telus it no longer worked.

The Hi-8 playback unit had problems with really long tapes and failed to maintain a correct spindle speed near the end of the tape resulting in video that was not useable.

I don't have any of that stuff anymore.
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Old Jul 16th, 2019, 08:12 AM   #3
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I tried looking for a DV camera and while they do exist it seems they have all gone the route of internal memory or SD cards rather then tapes. I think the cheapest option will be finding a used DV camera. The issue that will come after that is getting a connection that is not FireWire. Not sure if the cameras could use anything but FireWire or if you could simply buy a USB chord.

Worst cast I go probably pull out an old PowerMac Dual G4 I have collecting dust in my basement... providing it boots up. Been ages since I have used it.
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Old Jul 17th, 2019, 09:07 PM   #4
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I see you've run into some other Kernel Panic problems to add to your saga, and I know you thought about it but seem to have dismissed it, and that was to get a third party to do the conversion that does that type of work.

Even though I had most but not all of the equipment to do our own conversions of some old VCR tapes, and Super 8 video film, we decided to get them done professionally for those who do that sort of work, but some years ago now.

For the VCR tapes, Costco had a super deal that was too good to pass up, and for the other Super 8 films, we sent them off to a firm that works out of Nelson BC, that just happened to live down the road from where my wife's sister lives.

They did a great job and the Nelson fellow is still doing it according to his web page and ads.

Yes it was expensive but well worth it in our estimation and possibly better quality than I could have ended up doing due to lack of experience.

Anyway, just a thought you might want to reconsider as a method that would get the job done. There seem to be a fair number of places doing such conversion these days that a quick Google search will show.

PS: Our films were some very old family film stuff we didn't want to lose. Yours may not be as critical.



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Old Jul 18th, 2019, 07:59 AM   #5
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I see you've run into some other Kernel Panic problems to add to your saga, and I know you thought about it but seem to have dismissed it, and that was to get a third party to do the conversion that does that type of work.

Even though I had most but not all of the equipment to do our own conversions of some old VCR tapes, and Super 8 video film, we decided to get them done professionally for those who do that sort of work, but some years ago now.

For the VCR tapes, Costco had a super deal that was too good to pass up, and for the other Super 8 films, we sent them off to a firm that works out of Nelson BC, that just happened to live down the road from where my wife's sister lives.

They did a great job and the Nelson fellow is still doing it according to his web page and ads.

Yes it was expensive but well worth it in our estimation and possibly better quality than I could have ended up doing due to lack of experience.

Anyway, just a thought you might want to reconsider as a method that would get the job done. There seem to be a fair number of places doing such conversion these days that a quick Google search will show.

PS: Our films were some very old family film stuff we didn't want to lose. Yours may not be as critical.



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I have done some light video work and have access to good video editing software (Adobe Premier). I basically have the tools, DV camera now thanks to a friend, a computer (once I get the kernel panics sorted), and the software. I would look at using a company to transfer if I did not have these options but I would rather now pay when I basically have the tools to do it myself as well as some of the knowledge.
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Old Jul 18th, 2019, 02:23 PM   #6
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I would look at using a company to transfer if I did not have these options but I would rather now pay when I basically have the tools to do it myself as well as some of the knowledge.
Now all you need is the equipment and the software ALL working properly together, plus the one other very critical ingredient, time to do the projects!!!

It's so easy how some round tuits can build up, and sometimes just sit there!!! ;-)

Anyway, good luck on your project.

But it's also very frustrating to think that whatever media you used today may not even be playable in a few years down the road and you'll need to do some sort of migration again. And yes I've thought about this myself for the converted projects we had done recently. At least so far they are usable and watchable having being copied onto; flash drives, hard drives and optical disc drives.



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Now all you need is the equipment and the software ALL working properly together, plus the one other very critical ingredient, time to do the projects!!!

It's so easy how some round tuits can build up, and sometimes just sit there!!! ;-)

Anyway, good luck on your project.

But it's also very frustrating to think that whatever media you used today may not even be playable in a few years down the road and you'll need to do some sort of migration again. And yes I've thought about this myself for the converted projects we had done recently. At least so far they are usable and watchable having being copied onto; flash drives, hard drives and optical disc drives.



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I do have all the software I need, Apple Motion if I want to do some titles and effects... which I doubt I will use, and the latest and greatest Adobe Premier. All I need the G4 is to get the video files off the DV tapes so I can transfer them all to a my 5K iMac where I would actually do the work. Not in a rush and do understand the time it takes to edit video. When I dabbled in it years ago it looks hours and hours for a small 10 or 15 min video.

I even wonder how watchable it will be, display technology has come a long way and the camera it was filmed on was definitely not HD and I doubt even 720p. Will just take it a step at a time, a little hobby to work on when I have nothing else to do.
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Old Jul 18th, 2019, 04:44 PM   #8
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Will just take it a step at a time, a little hobby to work on when I have nothing else to do.

Some of the footage could be really interesting and rather sentimental if any of it has anything to do with any family type things.

Maybe you might be surprised by some of the sequences you come across. ;-)



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Hey, wonderings, have you come across my experiences with Mini DV tapes yet?

https://www.ehmac.ca/mac-iphone-ipad...d-dual-g4.html

I sincerely believe these can set you up quite well, as they did for myself.

Good luck!
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Hey, wonderings, have you come across my experiences with Mini DV tapes yet?

https://www.ehmac.ca/mac-iphone-ipad...d-dual-g4.html

I sincerely believe these can set you up quite well, as they did for myself.

Good luck!
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