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Old May 16th, 2018, 03:37 AM   #1
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Some websites "pretend" to load, but browser stays on the old page! Weird!

OK, I have a relatively new issue on my 27" Late 2013 iMac running macOS 10.13.4.

This happens with any browser (Safari, Opera, Firefox)

Some sites, sometimes, "pretend" to load, but do not. If I clicked on the offending link from some other page, the browser shows the progress bar as though it's loading the site, and then stays on the same page from where I clicked the link. The URL bar however shows the new page URL. When I press the "reload" button, it reloads the original page and not the one I clicked.

Say for example I was on google.com, and I typed twitter.com in the URL bar. The progress bar shows as though it's loading twitter.com, "completes" loading, and the URL bar shows "twitter.com" but the page stays on google.com. When I hit Reload, it reloads google.com and the URL too changes to google.com.

If I had started from a blank page and I type the URL into the bar, the behaviour is the same - it pretends to load, but the page stays blank.

One example of such a page where I face this issue is http://ww17.lanefx.com/news/10-reaso...t-mirrors.html.
Another example is twitter.com.

I thought it might be a cache issue or cookies issue, so I tried deleting everything; but it did not help. Also, that theory does not really hold water because it happens with every browser; and it is highly unlikely that every browser should have the identical cache issue on exactly the same page.

I tried changing DNSes, that too did not help.

I used twitter as an example because this happens with twitter too.

This is a problem that I do not know how to google for, since I have no way to form a search phrase for this. See how much text it took me to even describe this issue.

I would appreciate any pointers on what else I could try.

Thanks and cheers
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Old May 16th, 2018, 12:03 PM   #2
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I too am running macOS 10.13.4 and have no such issue now. I did experience that very thing though a few days back. I downloaded and ran the latest version of OnyX and it solved the issue for me. A free fix that worked.

https://www.titanium-software.fr/en/onyx.html
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Old May 16th, 2018, 10:54 PM   #3
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Thank you Sinc. Did you run Onyx with any special settings or just the basic run?

Edited to add: I ran Onyx maintenance tasks, but it did not solve the issue.

Edited again to add: I just logged in as the Guest user and tried, the problem did not occur. I also tried logging in as another user (wife's username), everything worked fine.

So, the problem is only with my login. What can I do now to resolve this?

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Well, first thing I would do is to reinstall the OS. That should wipe out whatever glitch is causing it. I just ran the basic OnyX default set and it worked for me. I should mention that I do not use any other browser but Safari, so that may be why OnyX worked. A reinstall is pretty simple these days and most times will work. Normally I would do a nuke and pave, but in this case it might not be required to eliminate the issue. Trouble is that you cannot just reinstall Safari, altho since it happens with other browsers it is likely the OS itself. You have to reinstall the entire OS to get a new copy of the browser which is a pain Apple has created. One should be able to erase and reinstall just the browser and one used to be able to do just that, but no more as far as I know.
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Have you tried clean booting and using Safe Boot Mode and see if some third-party software is casuing the problem,

You might want to use and run MALWAREBYTES FOR MAC.app just in case as well.
https://www.malwarebytes.com/mac/

Also, try disabling all or any browser extensions you might have installed.

It's a bit odd that all your browsers seem to be affected.



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Old May 17th, 2018, 04:32 PM   #6
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Well, first thing I would do is to reinstall the OS.

Downloading and running the compatible Mac OS COMBO Update would be more than enough, but neither will remove any third-party software that may be causing the problem.

Just saying… but it sure won't hurt to try.
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Trouble is that you cannot just reinstall Safari, altho since it happens with other browsers it is likely the OS itself.

Just for the record, various versions of Safari are available here:
https://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/15675/apple-safari

And I thought I saw some versions somewhere at the Apple site, under Support or App Store, I can't recall which, but Apple likes to hide things for some odd reason.


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BTW: A HEADS UP WARNING ABOUT SAFARI UPDATE Version 11.1

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B-Jefferson-Le-BlancApr 26, 201812345+0Be warned: Safari 11.1 kills most of your extensions. And the ones I use, like 1Password, have not, as of this date—April 26—have not been updated to work in Safari 11.1. Of course we couldn't expect Apple to warn us about this, could we. If anyone else has a different experience of this, please let me know.
https://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/15675/apple-safari

And related about 1Password.app
1 password extension stopped working with Safari 11.1
https://discussions.agilebits.com/di...comment/426309

PS: I don't use any of these, and I'm still back in using Mavericks 10.9.5 mostly.

Just thought I'd mention the facts for other users…


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Killing extensions is not a bad idea. A LOT of so-called "browser issues" trace back to extensions........ Especially multiple extensions......... Jes' sayin'........


Also, BEWARE OF MACDATE links they seem to have the dreaded MacKeeper links embedded more tha previously!!!
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Well, first thing I would do is to reinstall the OS. That should wipe out whatever glitch is causing it. I just ran the basic OnyX default set and it worked for me. I should mention that I do not use any other browser but Safari, so that may be why OnyX worked. A reinstall is pretty simple these days and most times will work. Normally I would do a nuke and pave, but in this case it might not be required to eliminate the issue. Trouble is that you cannot just reinstall Safari, altho since it happens with other browsers it is likely the OS itself. You have to reinstall the entire OS to get a new copy of the browser which is a pain Apple has created. One should be able to erase and reinstall just the browser and one used to be able to do just that, but no more as far as I know.
Thank you Since - I shall try this when I have some time to spare for this. That said, I still wonder how the problem never manifested itself for any user other than my user. If it were ask OS issue, wouldn't it be logical to presume that it would affect all users?

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Have you tried clean booting and using Safe Boot Mode and see if some third-party software is casuing the problem,

You might want to use and run MALWAREBYTES FOR MAC.app just in case as well.
https://www.malwarebytes.com/mac/

Also, try disabling all or any browser extensions you might have installed.

It's a bit odd that all your browsers seem to be affected.



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MalwareBytes shows nothing wrong.

My machine is clean-booted every day (meaning started up from power-off. Have not tried Safe-boot yet - will try that shortly and post an update.

Re. extensions, all users have the same extensions enabled; and the same browsers. I am bewildered by how it affects only my user ID. And even in the browsers, each browser has a different set of extensions enabled (uBlock Origin for Safari, Ghostery for Firefox; and Opera's built-in blocker for Opera). Again, behaviour across browsers is identical!

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Killing extensions is not a bad idea. A LOT of so-called "browser issues" trace back to extensions........ Especially multiple extensions......... Jes' sayin'........ . *SNIP*
Thank you rGray. Please see my response to Patrick

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