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Old Sep 28th, 2004, 01:13 PM   #1
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i believe those were the words conveyed to me during the 'driven by design' seminar way back when..

i've had my G5 1.6gHz machine up & running at work for the better part of 2 months now.. having migrated completely to this machine two weeks, i'm noticing extensive problems.. my machine is freezing about once a day (on average), and has frozen completely 3 times today already (in 3.5 hrs).. it's freezing when i close finder windows, when i load a program, working in a program, dragging something to the trash, or just out of the blue..

anyone have any insight as to why my machine is posessed?! is it just the devil, getting back at me for getting rid of my G4?!
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Old Sep 28th, 2004, 01:39 PM   #2
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Have you applied any of the latest firmware updates for the single-processor G5's? Some of those were apparently causing some users grief.

Do you own Diskwarrior by any chance? May be time to run a test on the drive; also, do you have any recently added 3rd-party RAM?
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Old Sep 28th, 2004, 01:51 PM   #3
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If you have Norton Utilities or Norton Antivirus installed on it, get rid of that. Every last little bit. It's nothing but trouble.

Do you have any third party RAM or hardware?

Have you run the Apple Hardware Test CD?

What version of the OS are you running?

While a G5 can freeze or crash, there is generally a reason. Have you checked the system log or crash log, sometimes that can point you to the problem.
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Old Sep 28th, 2004, 01:55 PM   #4
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Old Sep 28th, 2004, 01:58 PM   #5
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just to clarify my last post - i think ram might be your problem. what have you got installed. can you post a screen shot of your system profile? what's your firmware revision number?

as macdoc pointed out in another thread in "anything mac & iPod", you need to remove third party ram prior to installing the firmware update or you'll be entering a world of pain.
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Old Sep 28th, 2004, 04:28 PM   #6
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no 3rd party ram, just the 1.25gb it came shipped with..

running osx 10.3.5.. haven't done the firmware update..

thanks for the info, i'll try some things..
i've unplugged my keyboard & mouse from the usb ports in the 20" cinema display, and all seems to be fine for the time being.. i'm still going to run some diagnostics, just to see what's up..

thanks guys..
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Old Sep 28th, 2004, 06:24 PM   #7
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Trout Mask that's incorrect - remove the original 2x128 solved the issue with the firmware on two clients who had problems.

There is no magic about Apple ram - they buy on the open market like everyone else.

It's timing issues between ram modules.
He does not have a matched set in there he's got 2 x 128 and 2 x 512.



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Old Sep 28th, 2004, 07:11 PM   #8
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all i said was i think it's the ram. with the matched sets comment you seem to be saying you think it's the ram too.

what was i incorrect about? the firmware thing?
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what was i incorrect about?
You stated... "you need to remove third party ram prior to installing the firmware update or you'll be entering a world of pain."

Where MacDoc said... "remove the original 2x128 solved the issue with the firmware on two clients who had problems."

You said third-party RAM... MacDoc is stating Apple-stocked RAM.
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Have you installed any new programs/updates recently? It could be buggy/incompatible software programs.
Also do you run routine maintenance: cron scripts, repair permissions or prebind the system. If you leave the machine on it will automatically run the cron scripts during the night (around 4:30 I think -default) or you can use utilities to run the maintenance routines. I don't know if this will resolve your particular problem, but are a good idea to run from once in a while, anytime & especially after installing new software updates.
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