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Old Nov 20th, 2003, 03:43 PM   #1
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So I setting up a mail/collaboration server for my organization, seeing I'm about as anti-M$ as the next Mac user I've decided to go with FirstClass. Feature filled, scalable, cross-platform etc.

Currently I'm housing my 3 Server at my home office as I really don't need to outsource to a data centre as yet. I guess my question would be a 3 parts as follows:

1. Is anyone running a mail server on a Cable boadband connection from the home/SoHo?

2. Will Rogers allow me to run something of this nature?

3. If not is there any kind of work-around?

I know DSL providers are a bit more relaxed about home servers and I have addressed the DSL issue, unfortunately DSL is still not availability in my area.

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Old Nov 20th, 2003, 11:37 PM   #2
 
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1. Is anyone running a mail server on a Cable boadband connection from the home/SoHo?
2. Will Rogers allow me to run something of this nature?
3. If not is there any kind of work-around?
1. you may need to upgrade to Rogers hi-speed business - only dynamic ip addressing right now, but they offer DNS pointing unitl something like static ip is offered in say, the new year

2. rogers - home does not
rogers business does

3. re: ip addressing, see 1.
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Old Nov 21st, 2003, 10:43 AM   #3
 
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I would not deal with Rogers. Persoanlly I think they business practices suck! One of my clients have their business account with an assigned IP and they have since shut down their service as they have scanned their network and found that there is the nisus virus on their server.....hmm funny how that virus would show up on an all mac network...stupid rogers. They were so adament that this virus was there and they would not open up the IP again until my client could ensure the virus was no longer there....go back up little...this is an ALL MAC NETWORK! Stupid rogers with their crappy support!!

I would not recommend Bell either as they cannot seem to keep their SMTP servers up and running properly and they cost an arm and a leg for your business edition.

I have look.ca business from my home and they are friendly. When I needed a reverse DNS lookup added to my domain name they did it free of charge, when I asked for another IP there was no extra cost in it, there is no port scanning by them and there is no port blocking by them. I have never had a problem with them and I think the price ($99.00) per month is more than enough especially for a 1.5mb feed with a static IP.

My 2 cents. My thoughts....don't even bother with Rogers or Bell!
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Old Nov 21st, 2003, 03:06 PM   #4
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Thanks for the Look.ca suggestion, as I mentioned earlier DSL is not available to my area. Pretty much all DSL providers use Bell boxes for DSL so either way its out of the question for now, nor do I plan to go wireless with Look this requires a phone line for SMTP communication and there Sat. TV service. This would leave Rogers as the lessor of the two evils. Can I purchase a static IP from a third party source and use that?
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In all reality, if you were able to purchase (good luck as they are gone) IPv4 IP addresses, you could take them anywhere with you and have any ISP host forward all the requests for them.

Rogers might not want to put that into place for you even if you could get a set of IP's C Class perhaps. The best way to ensure you get the IP's you need is to move up to the next level (IPv6) that will allow you to have enough IP's for life. Well depending you can get those implemented at the moment.

Basically though, Rogers is a totally closed up system and they do not allow you to run certain features (well you can run them, they just deny access to those services) such as Port 25, 110, and so on. Ports that are often compromised are often closed up on their system, so even though you can get mail internally. i.e. from [email protected] to [email protected] you can not send mail from [email protected] to [email protected] as the outgoing SMTP port is blocked on their firewall to help reducce SPAM mail.

I do not believe that rogers allows you to have static IP's, however they will give you a dedicated IP but they will shut it down if certain requirements are not met (see my post above with the whole shutting down the line becuase of a virus on the line that does not exist)

If you don't have a choice in ISP's, you are really playing by their books and you have very little choice in what you do.

Hopefully Bell will pull your area into the loop and allow you to get more choices for ISP's soon.
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I do not believe that rogers allows you to have static IP's
Check back with Rogers in January.
Hopefully by that time you will have DSL and then you can get them to fight over your business.
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