after some trial and error including buying a original ipad mini (misdirected by the seller as an iPad mini 2). I was finally able to make a deal for a brand-new still in wrapper 32GB ipad mini 2. I paid a fair price and I'm happy.
Although I really wonder why people even bother placing kijiji ads, I mean I was actively looking and ready to buy but trying to getting a reply to my inquiry on their ad and better details from some people was like pulling teeth. I mean I swear it seemed like I was bothering them with stupid questions "like what version are you selling and how big is your iPad mini?" I'm pretty sure all they wanted me to do was show up at their door and throw cash at them while they tossed the box to me and slam the door.
oh, and I got a partial refund in what i "overpaid" for the iPad mini 1 (surprised I did but the seller made right) and I was able to sell it in 1 day for what I paid for it.
the crap is piled high ... now trying to keep up