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Something I've noted several times is that, while most of us agree it's important to be informed about Canadian politics and to be an engaged citizen, the fact is that Canadian politics are generally pretty boring (this can be a good thing, IMO). The Americans, on the other hand, have turned the dysfunction of their political system into an entertainment industry (although it appears Harper, et al., are determined to reduce the Canadian system to the same level).

So I thought I'd start a thread for discussion of the Reality TV show they call American Politics.

I'll start with this posting I saw on another forum, with respect to the Republican's policies on women's health care, especially with regard to contraception and abortion:
After years and years and years of specifically targeting homophobes, racists, bigots, religious zealots, anti-intellectuals and sociopaths why should we be at all shocked that the GOP picked up a ****load of misogynists along the way?
 
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the entire Romney campaign hinges on "he's not Obama". He's never stated anything substantial about policy or his plans should he get elected.

to some people him not being Obama is enough. He's got their vote. to the undecided he's going to have to prove himself a better candidate.

I suspect that the debates will further undo Romney's campaign. IMO his lack of anything substantial beyond him "not being Obama" will be highlighted.

Obama is far from perfect, but he's miles better than Romney.
 
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the entire Romney campaign hinges on "he's not Obama". He's never stated anything substantial about policy or his plans should he get elected.

to some people him not being Obama is enough. He's got their vote. to the undecided he's going to have to prove himself a better candidate.

I suspect that the debates will further undo Romney's campaign. IMO his lack of anything substantial beyond him "not being Obama" will be highlighted.

Obama is far from perfect, but he's miles better than Romney.
Is that what you see? I guess you haven't looked at this from both sides then.
 
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From The new Yorker. Proves absolutely nothing except that Paul Ryan is indeed a politician. We can now safely say if his lips are moving bet that he is lying.

Last week, in an interview with Hugh Hewitt, Paul Ryan said that he had run a marathon in under three hours, or, more precisely, “I had a two hour and fifty-something.” That is quite speedy, and running fans in the forums of Letsrun.com treated the claim with great skepticism. The Internet bears no trace of the run, and Ryan doesn’t have the extremely lean frame of your typical fast marathoner. Also, people who run that quickly are generally neurotic about their times. Shouldn’t Ryan remember his exactly? “He is too intense and driven to just forget something like that,” one commentator wrote.

Slate and Runner’s World investigated. Questions were raised, given the criticism of Ryan’s honesty in his convention speech. This evening, the terrific running journalist Scott Douglas figured out that Ryan had actually run a 4:01 in the Grandma’s Marathon in Duluth, Minnesota, in 1990, when he was a college student. This is not quite so fast. A 2:55 would have put Ryan in a hundred and thirtieth place, out of the thirty-two hundred and seventy-seven men in that race. A 4:01 put him in nineteen hundred and ninetieth place. It’s the difference between racing and running.

I contacted the campaign this evening about the discrepancy. Ryan, through a spokesman, responded that he’d just mixed things up: “The race was more than 20 years ago, but my brother Tobin—who ran Boston last year—reminds me that he is the owner of the fastest marathon in the family and has never himself ran a sub-three. If I were to do any rounding, it would certainly be to four hours, not three. He gave me a good ribbing over this at dinner tonight.”


Read more How Fast Can Paul Ryan Run a Marathon? : The New Yorker
 
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Is that what you see? I guess you haven't looked at this from both sides then.
*ahem*

Conservatives hammer Mitt Romney for lack of specific policy details

For months, Republican Mitt Romney’s presidential campaign has been built on broad themes: cut taxes, repeal and replace Democratic President Barack Obama’s healthcare overhaul, increase defense spending.

But when it comes to specifics – namely, how to pay for the tax cuts and extra spending, and what exactly a Romney healthcare plan would look like – Romney has been reluctant to give details, essentially gambling that Americans’ frustration with high unemployment rates and a struggling economy will be enough to propel him to the White House.

Now, with polls showing that Obama has taken a slight lead in the race after the Republican and Democratic national conventions, increasingly anxious conservatives are calling on Romney to spell out more of his plans – even if it risks alienating some undecided voters.
(NationalPost)
 
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Both fiscal conservatives along with social conservatives were sold a bill of goods by George Bush, and they don't want to be taken in once again. Ron Paul was the true spokesperson for the fiscal conservatives, and Rick Santorum was the eventual spokesperson for the social consevatives/religious right. So, neither has come out with a ringing endorsement of Romney, so we shall see.
 
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"(CNN) – Has Mitt Romney twisted the narrative of Tuesday's attacks at U.S. missions in Libya and Egypt?

A timeline of the events suggests Romney was wrong in his accusation that the Obama administration's "first response" on Tuesday was one of sympathy for those who started the violence itself–as the violence came after the first statement was published."

Hey, if the facts and timeline don't fit the sound bite, then change the facts and timeline.

TRENDING: Romney’s political pretzel over Libya – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs
 
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Protesters angered by an anti-Islam film have stormed the U.S. Embassy compound in Yemen's capital, Sanaa. This was breaking news at 330AM in Washington, DC. I bet that Pres. Obama was still asleep as the phone kept rining, and ringing, and ringing from a call from Mitt Romney who wanted to know why the president was not picking up the phone for that call at 3AM ............... a call from Hillary Clinton. :eek::eek:

Hillary Clinton Ad - 3 AM White House Ringing Phone - YouTube
 
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Protesters angered by an anti-Islam film have stormed the U.S. Embassy compound in Yemen's capital, Sanaa. This was breaking news at 330AM in Washington, DC. I bet that Pres. Obama was still asleep as the phone kept rining, and ringing, and ringing from a call from Mitt Romney who wanted to know why the president was not picking up the phone for that call at 3AM ............... a call from Hillary Clinton. :eek::eek:
Why are those protesters so angry about a film, instead of the fact that President Obama boasts repeatedly of having killed Osama Bin Laden?
 
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Why are those protesters so angry about a film, instead of the fact that President Obama boasts repeatedly of having killed Osama Bin Laden?
Maybe they did not get the briefing memo that OBL had been killed ........ or don't believ it????

Still, this will launch Romney into the White House as a replay of 1980 ............. or, Romney will again say something stupid and inaccurate and people will question his foreign policy credentials????? We shall see.

Actually, the presidential debates should prove to be interesting as Pres. Obama takes the forefront as commander-in-chief.
 
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Still, this will launch Romney into the White House as a replay of 1980 ............. or, Romney will again say something stupid and inaccurate and people will question his foreign policy credentials????? We shall see.
Here is a WSJ timeline of events and remarks. I don't believe Romney said anything either stupid or inaccurate.

Actually, the presidential debates should prove to be interesting as Pres. Obama takes the forefront as commander-in-chief.
Can President Obama learn to behave like a Commander-in-Chief over a few short weeks?
 
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of course you don't.

As just about every media outlet or anyone that is truthful is saying, the timeline clearly says Romney spoke too soon. End of story.

Now the republicans are furiously backtracking to desperately try and frame this as a white house administrations statement, when clearly, once again, is a bald faced lie.

I suppose if they repeat it enough times, there may be enough supporters, who may actually believe the lies.

Even McCain was choking on this and could only move the conversation to a combination on Obama's foreign policy in general...

Guliani said he was upset that Obama suggested we would go into Libya with their help. Isn't that the sort of attitude that screwed the US in the first place? I think the US is much better off with someone who understands diplomacy.
 
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