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Old Jan 10th, 2021, 10:18 PM   #20761
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I am sure this has the politically correct crowd dancing in the aisle, their masters however do demand they hide behind masks and refrain from singing. As to the rest of us it sure is a head scratcher.
https://gazette.com/premium/editoria...5a280f876.html
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Wikipedia is not the most reliable source, but in this case it does provide helpful context:
Criticism

Rodney Young of American University wrote that:[3]

If there is one slavery monument whose origins are highly political, the Freedman's memorial is it. The development process for this memorial started immediately after Abraham Lincoln's assassination and ended, appropriately enough, near the end of Reconstruction in 1876. In many ways, it exemplified and reflected the hopes, dreams, striving, and ultimate failures of reconstruction.

The monument has been criticized for its paternalistic character and for not doing justice to the role that African Americans played in their own liberation. While the funds for the monument were raised from former slaves, a white artist conceived the original design. An alternative design depicting Lincoln with uniformed black Union soldiers was rejected as too expensive. According to historian Kirk Savage, a witness to the memorial's dedication recorded Frederick Douglass as saying that the statue "showed the Negro on his knees when a more manly attitude would have been indicative of freedom".[14][15] In a recently uncovered letter from Douglass that appeared in the National Republican five days after the dedication, he said that the monument did not tell the "whole truth".[16]

Admirable as is the monument by Mr. Ball in Lincoln park, it does not, as it seems to me, tell the whole truth, and perhaps no one monument could be made to tell the whole truth of any subject which it might be designed to illustrate. The mere act of breaking the Negro's chains was the act of Abraham Lincoln, and is beautifully expressed in this monument. But the act by which the negro was made a citizen of the United States and invested with the elective franchise was pre-eminently the act of President U.S. Grant, and this is nowhere seen in the Lincoln monument.

The negro here, though rising, is still on his knees and nude. What I want to see before I die is a monument representing the negro, not couchant on his knees like a four-footed animal, but erect on his feet like a man. There is room in Lincoln park for another monument, and I throw out this suggestion to the end that it may be taken up and acted upon.


White and Sandage, who rediscovered the letter, saw in it "a solution to the current impasse" over the Emancipation Memorial. Since no one statue could provide the whole truth, they suggested enriching the memorial group by adding statues of Charlotte Scott, whose contribution began the process, and Frederick Douglass, who dedicated the original monument, to create a new "Emancipation Group", as the monument was sometimes called.[16]

Lincoln biographer, Sidney Blumenthal, noted that the kneeling slave was a widespread abolitionist motif, appearing on the masthead of William Lloyd Garrison's abolitionist newspaper, The Liberator.[17]


Yale History professor David Blight takes an opposing position, arguing it should not be removed (interview here).
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Old Jan 11th, 2021, 03:18 PM   #20762
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Here are 5 Confirmed fatalities:

Brian Sicknick - Capitol Police Officer and veteran - hit in the head with a fire extinguisher, succumbed to injuries

Ashli Babbitt - shot in the neck while trying to break into Nancy Pelosi's office.
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Benjamin Phillips
- Medical emergency. Trump supporter

Kevin Greeson - Heart attack [History of high blood pressure] - strong Trump supporter, family denies had anything to do with the violence.

Rosanne Boyland - Medical emergency, unconfirmed but may have been trampled
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Old Jan 12th, 2021, 01:36 AM   #20763
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Officer allowing people into the area, making only token gestures with a baton as he reached each landing, then giving complete way to people entering the building. This is supposed to be a heavily guarded area with top-level security. This looks like a set-up.
So this officer, now hailed as a hero was baiting the rioters to follow him to an area where police surrounded them.

His name is Eugene Goodman and the entire video is available everywhere.
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Old Jan 12th, 2021, 10:36 AM   #20764
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So this officer, now hailed as a hero was baiting the rioters to follow him to an area where police surrounded them.

His name is Eugene Goodman and the entire video is available everywhere.

Things are not always as they seem. Well done, Officer Goodman.
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Old Jan 12th, 2021, 11:56 AM   #20765
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Here are 5 Confirmed fatalities:

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Ashli Babbitt - shot in the neck while trying to break into Nancy Pelosi's office.
Strong conspiracy theory follower.
Posted this in response to Kamala Harris about first 100 day plan with vaccines:
“No the **** you will not!” Ashli Babbitt replied to Harris. “No masks, no you,
no Biden the kid raper, no vaccines...sit your fraudulent ass down…we the ppl bitch!”

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Interesting a lot of background there, none of which the shooter could possibly have been aware. Smearing the victim to deflect attention away from the fact that she was unarmed. Not at all sure how being aware that these vaccines have not been properly tested, and that masks are useless makes her an evil person deserving of execution. But then I insist on unrestricted breathing, so having avoided rebreathing my own exhaust fumes my thinking remains clear.

Also interesting how that gentleman from Arkansas was able to enter Pelosi's office without hindrance, and pose with his feet on her desk. Finally arrested a few days later at home in Arkansas. If entering Pelosi's office is a Capital offense why is he still alive?
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Old Jan 12th, 2021, 12:09 PM   #20766
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I see I am not the only one who wondered about this:
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Old Jan 12th, 2021, 12:38 PM   #20767
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I saw a similar image on CNN and was not exactly sure what I was seeing as it was so bizarre that with all the chaos they were following the rules of the velvet rope.
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I saw a similar image on CNN and was not exactly sure what I was seeing as it was so bizarre that with all the chaos they were following the rules of the velvet rope.
As someone appropriately stated, this incursion was an insurrection as Hamilton the Musical is to the American Revolution. It was a cluster**** no doubt, but one that could have been prevented by appropriate controls and professional policing.
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If entering Pelosi's office is a Capital offense why is he still alive?
Well, the answer is in your spelling. It was a Capitol offense, not a Capital offense, hence the kid gloves.
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