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Old Jan 21st, 2013, 11:58 AM   #91
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exactly why the thread is such a joke.....can't even get to the basics - fruit of the poisoned tree.





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Old Jan 21st, 2013, 11:58 AM   #92
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See, no there you go being irrational again. If you were a climatologist, and went to international meetings of climatologists, or even worked with climatologists, you're opinion on this might be worth something. But you're just some guy on the internet with an opinion that isn't worth the electrons that were inconvenienced transmitting it.
Your opinion on climates consensus is worth nothing to me bryanc. You're a guy who cuts up fish embryos.
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Old Jan 21st, 2013, 12:11 PM   #94
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The retreat of the scientifically ignorant
indeed, the previous post should win the irony award for the month.



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Old Jan 21st, 2013, 12:13 PM   #95
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Your opinion on climates consensus is worth nothing to me bryanc. You're a guy who cuts up fish embryos.
Exactly as it should be; as I have said over and over in this thread and others, if you lack the expertise on a given subject you should refrain from criticizing the opinion of the experts.

It is a matter of public record that a consensus exists among experts in climate science; you certainly don't have to take my word for it. And if you doubt it, by all means take it up with the National Academy of Science or any of the other public institutions or individual researchers making this claim. I'm accepting the claims of the experts; so the burden of proof is on you... you are claiming the experts are lying, so you have to provide evidence (and, just in case you forgot, blog posts are not admissible).
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I'm accepting the claims of the experts; so the burden of proof is on you... you are claiming the experts are lying, so you have to provide evidence (and, just in case you forgot, blog posts are not admissible).
"The experts" say there is a consensus so you merely accept it?
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Old Jan 21st, 2013, 01:33 PM   #97
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Exactly as it should be; as I have said over and over in this thread and others, if you lack the expertise on a given subject you should refrain from criticizing the opinion of the experts.

It is a matter of public record that a consensus exists among experts in climate science; you certainly don't have to take my word for it. And if you doubt it, by all means take it up with the National Academy of Science or any of the other public institutions or individual researchers making this claim. I'm accepting the claims of the experts; so the burden of proof is on you... you are claiming the experts are lying, so you have to provide evidence (and, just in case you forgot, blog posts are not admissible).
but, that's all they have. I have yet to see one of them actually conduct the experiments themselves.

They seem so eager to dismiss the work of the experts they dislike because of their findings, yet so eager to accept another they feel is an expert and supports what they want to hear.

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Old Jan 21st, 2013, 01:35 PM   #98
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"The experts" say there is a consensus so you merely accept it?
No, the organizations of experts (National Academy of Sciences, European Academy of Sciences, Royal Academy of Sciences, and other organizations of professional scientists) say there is a consensus among accredited experts in the field, and I have no reason to doubt it. I also know several climatologists, and many people who work in related fields, and this is a silly topic of discussion as far as they're concerned; there's been no real doubt about ACC for over a decade. You'll note that these organizations don't say that there is a consensus on what causes cancer, the cause of universal expansion, the relationship between gravity and energy, the evolutionary origins of altruistic behaviour, or even the origins of life on earth, despite the fact that these are important scientific questions about which many scientists agree. Consensus does not emerge easily in science; even when most of us are "pretty sure," until essentially all of us are as close to certain as we can get, and have been for quite some time, there will still be argument and debate.
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So did I; of what relevance is it to this discussion?
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