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Old Jul 11th, 2011, 05:24 PM   #1
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Usage-based Internet Billing - Here we go again

I don't think anyone started this topic again.

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Canada’s telecommunications regulator is hearing competing ideas about how independent internet service providers are billed by large internet service providers such as Bell — rules that could affect prices and options available to regular internet users.

The CRTC hearings could affect how much smaller ISPs charge customers who go to them because of their higher limits on downloading and uploading.

Bell spent much of Monday morning before the Canadian Radio-Television and Telecommunications Commission arguing in favour of its new proposal to charge independent internet service providers based on their customers’ total internet usage.

The proposal, known as “aggregate volume pricing” allows independent ISPs to buy pre-paid network access based on a cap on the total amount of internet usage by their customers. Bell proposed charging $200 per terabyte, plus a surcharge of 29.5 cents for each gigabyte over the allotted block.
Bell pitches new usage-based internet billing idea - Politics - CBC News
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Old Jul 11th, 2011, 06:27 PM   #2
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I'm not changing my internet provider until this thing plays out. Sure, the unlimited ginormous caps offered by indie providers sounds great, but I'll wait.
And really, everybody seems to have the same pricing if you anything more than 2GB and dialup speed.
Why does cost it cost me an extra + $30 to get more than 2GB and .5mbp, but only $10 to get an extra 80GB on my (premium) basic 25Gb plan.
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Old Jul 11th, 2011, 07:30 PM   #3
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I switched from Primus to Fibrestream last week, and couldn't be happier. I'm getting 3-4 times the speed for less money, and still have unlimited usage The only downside is that they only service MRU's Condo's and Apartment buildings, but if you can get service from them I'l strongly recommend them.
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Old Jul 12th, 2011, 04:45 AM   #4
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I sacrificed speed for bandwidth. Those greedy f'ers can choke on it with their $65/month for 60GB. I go through that in a week sometimes.

I'm with Teksavvy now, can only get the 5Mb, but at least I get 300GB/month, which is perfect for my usage, and it only costs me $45/month.
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Old Jul 12th, 2011, 08:13 AM   #5
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I sacrificed speed for bandwidth. Those greedy f'ers can choke on it with their $65/month for 60GB. I go through that in a week sometimes.

I'm with Teksavvy now, can only get the 5Mb, but at least I get 300GB/month, which is perfect for my usage, and it only costs me $45/month.
Is the current wholesale pricing based on both speed of the connection AND bandwidth?
This proposal looks as if it's based strictly on total volume of data transferred - not related to speed or time-of-day.

With 300 GB/month for $45 you're getting pricing which is below the wholesale pricing proposed, but the $65.- for 60 GB/month is way over.
Wholesale cost from Bell would be $12.- and Teksavvy charges $65.-?
That's ahuge mark up.
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Is the current wholesale pricing based on both speed of the connection AND bandwidth?
This proposal looks as if it's based strictly on total volume of data transferred - not related to speed or time-of-day.

With 300 GB/month for $45 you're getting pricing which is below the wholesale pricing proposed, but the $65.- for 60 GB/month is way over.
Wholesale cost from Bell would be $12.- and Teksavvy charges $65.-?
That's ahuge mark up.
I think the $65 he mentioned is from Rogers or Bell. TekSavvy does not have a plan like that.
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Old Jul 12th, 2011, 09:43 AM   #7
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The answer to this whole controversy is to break the Telcos and Cablecos into 2 units.
One would be the plant/infrastructure (cost) which would sell access to the second company - Bell/Rogers/Shaw/Telus marketing and sales - that would level the playing field.

This will never happen because the Cablecos are run by family fortunes that influence government policy...they play the fiddle with who ever is in power CON/Lib/NDP/PQ.
If the CRTC was given a go-ahead to break up Belus, Belus shareholders (large investment banks) would scream. This thing is deadlocked from a policy perspective until we have very bold leadership at the fed level.

We are going to end up with some irritating compromise.
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Old Jul 12th, 2011, 09:46 AM   #8
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We are going to end up with some irritating compromise.
+1! Good summation, by the way.
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My local food store wanted me to pay for each individual item I threw in my cart! I thought I should pay a flat fee for as much as I wanted to eat.
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when you start paying 20 dollars for the fresh broccoli let us know.



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