Now that the 2011 election is over, let's use this thread to discuss Canadian politics as they transpire over the next 4 years.
Please keep the discussion civil and I kindly request no personal attacks or insults directed towards fellow ehMac members.
It would be refreshing to avoid over-the-top hyperbole as well. We're all Canadians and lets not make people out to be left-wing or right-wing caricatures or turn things into a WWE fight promo.
I may not be a supporter of Prime Minster Harper, but he does endorse ehMac.ca.
^ Picture I took on a nice trip to Ottawa this past winter.
Martin built the soundest financial structure in the western world and was lauded by his peers around the world.
Reduced the deficit ( not easily ) and the national debt to the best numbers around.
Harpo expands government beyond belief, floods the Senate with hangers on, over sees corporate welfare to his oil patch buddies, oversees the worst gov deficit ever after cutting the one tax every single economist said he should not and running deep into the red putting the national numbers back 15 years.
Yeah there are indeed amateurs running the country.....called the Cons for good reason. Hell he didn't even see the worst recession in 70 years coming and it was on his doorstep.
That was 2 seats Muloonie was left with after HIS extravaganza..
...."every time we fail to learn from history, it costs more"
I did once, at the Calgary Airport. He was not PM at the time, which is why I guess I was able to walk up to him and chat for 5 minutes. Voted for him after that, but he seemed to have changed after becoming PM, and have not voted for him since.
Still, he struck me as an intelligent and honorable person.
Now that the 2011 election is over, let's use this thread to discuss Canadian politics as they transpire over the next 4 years.
Please keep the discussion civil and I kindly request no personal attacks or insults directed towards fellow ehMac members.
It would be refreshing to avoid over-the-top hyperbole as well. We're all Canadians and lets not make people out to be left-wing or right-wing caricatures or turn things into a WWE fight promo.
I may not be a supporter of Prime Minster Harper, but he does endorse ehMac.ca.
^ Picture I took on a nice trip to Ottawa this past winter.
Get ready for amateur hour. Now imagine if the NDP and Liberals scored more seats than the Conservatives and this group started to run the country. The 2% of voters who jumped to the Conservatives on the last day deserve our eternal gratitude.
yes. We certainly can't have ministers that would do things like leave documents that are top secret for reason of national security lying around for bikers or anyone to read, that sort of thing.:lmao:
Martin built the soundest financial structure in the western world and was lauded by his peers around the world.
Reduced the deficit ( not easily ) and the national debt to the best numbers around.
That "sound" financial structure included expropriating pension money from its employees (how many billions was that? Oh, yeah…close to 30 billion dollars.)
That "sound" financial structure included expropriating pension money from its employees (how many billions was that? Oh, yeah…close to 30 billion dollars.)
The money had to come from somewhere, while we can all disagree -where- it should have come from, I'm interested in hearing where the cuts should have come from. (And no cutting funds from the CBC wouldn't have balanced budget.. )
The money had to come from somewhere, while we can all disagree -where- it should have come from, I'm interested in hearing where the cuts should have come from. (And no cutting funds from the CBC wouldn't have balanced budget.. )
I think one of the very first places to look to stem bleeding is when every single department dumps the rest of its budget at the end of the fiscal year. Seriously, some departments try to load up on expensive computers just to burn the cash as quickly as possible.
I think one of the very first places to look to stem bleeding is when every single department dumps the rest of its budget at the end of the fiscal year. Seriously, some departments try to load up on expensive computers just to burn the cash as quickly as possible.
I think one of the very first places to look to stem bleeding is when every single department dumps the rest of its budget at the end of the fiscal year. Seriously, some departments try to load up on expensive computers just to burn the cash as quickly as possible.
Yes, this happen everywhere including in business. The problem is how do you deal with it. Much like in the private sector this problem may always exist. This is because strategies created to deal with this has been less than 100% effective, as other problems crop up.
Indiscriminate slashing of budgets and employees are ineffective at dealing with the underlying issues. Such as the problem mentioned above, or over staffing as they hurt departments being ran efficiently or currently understaffed.
Get ready for amateur hour. Now imagine if the NDP and Liberals scored more seats than the Conservatives and this group started to run the country. The 2% of voters who jumped to the Conservatives on the last day deserve our eternal gratitude.
Martin built the soundest financial structure in the western world and was lauded by his peers around the world.
Reduced the deficit ( not easily ) and the national debt to the best numbers around.
Harpo expands government beyond belief, floods the Senate with hangers on, over sees corporate welfare to his oil patch buddies, oversees the worst gov deficit ever after cutting the one tax every single economist said he should not and running deep into the red putting the national numbers back 15 years.
Yeah there are indeed amateurs running the country.....called the Cons for good reason. Hell he didn't even see the worst recession in 70 years coming and it was on his doorstep.
That was 2 seats Muloonie was left with after HIS extravaganza..
...."every time we fail to learn from history, it costs more"
MacDoc you are not seeing big picture here. When our Glorious Leader spends recklessly it's OK. He's a professional. As a trained economist any spending by, Our Glorious Leader, will be claimed by his disciples to be, on the basis of his professional training, so it is never amateurish. It may ideologically driven, it may offer poor value, it maybe pork barreling in its finest form but is always professionally spent.
MacDoc you are not seeing big picture here. When our Glorious Leader spends recklessly it's OK. He's a professional. As a trained economist any spending by, Our Glorious Leader, will be claimed by his disciples to be, on the basis of his professional training, so it is never amateurish. It may ideologically driven, it may offer poor value, it maybe pork barreling in its finest form but is always professionally spent.
Amen, Brother BigDL. Hopefully the "tax and spend" folks like Macfury will stop seeing these cuts as "sins", and rather see them as needed cuts to sustain our economy. Imagine, calling expenditures to build bigger and more secure prisons a sin??? He, along with the other "pie in the sky we deserve a social safety net" crowd will soon realize that there is "no free lunch", and survival of the fittest is the order of the day ............... at least for the next four years.
Just think, political stability and economic growth and prosperity for the next 4 1/2 years ............ :love2::love2::love2::love2:
No way of knowing without looking at the books… but it's a start. The funny thing about balancing budgets is that it's usually the culmination of many smaller things that help bring about one big change.
What the government needs to learn is that when you control the small things, you won't need to rely on, for example, a big solution (stealing billions from your employees) to balance the books.
Amen, Brother BigDL. Hopefully the "tax and spend" folks like Macfury will stop seeing these cuts as "sins", and rather see them as needed cuts to sustain our economy. Imagine, calling expenditures to build bigger and more secure prisons a sin??? He, along with the other "pie in the sky we deserve a social safety net" crowd will soon realize that there is "no free lunch", and survival of the fittest is the order of the day ............... at least for the next four years.
Just think, political stability and economic growth and prosperity for the next 4 1/2 years ............ :love2::love2::love2::love2:
Right On! Dr.G. It's about time someone took on the Nannies of this country.
I glad you pointed out that Our Glorious Leader is focusing his spending on convicts and if some money falls off the table into the hands of the Private Sector praise be onto the Entrepreneur, so be it.
Money to feed Nanny's cat is such a waste. Cut em back till they really scream then give em enough to shut them up should be about right.
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