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Old Nov 12th, 2013, 05:13 PM   #10601
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Then how can you realistically form an opinion?
I'm realistically forming an opinion based on you trolling or goading him for "lying" somewhere else in response to unrelated posts. That's what I see.
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Old Nov 12th, 2013, 05:29 PM   #10602
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Where I grew up, if I broke the neighbour's window I paid to fix the window and apologized to him. If I didn't do both things in a timely fashion, I got my hide tanned for me. Call me old-fashioned but that sense of responsibility has remained with me since then & is the same type of thing I teach my children: Deal with your screw-ups or pay the consequences.

It's also the same kind of behaviour I expect on ehMac and exactly what I expect from groovetube. If you want this to go away, I suggest you whisper in someone's ear that that the time to deal with this is long overdue.

As to your observation about "derailing every thread on the board", my path crosses regularly with his in the Canadian & American Political threads. That is purely coincidental. I don't have the desire, the inclination nor the need to follow him anywhere.
I doubt he broke anyone's window or did any physical property damage. if he did i'd suggest you take it up with the proper authorities.

From what I understand in the previous thread you created you tried to contact the administrators of this forum about your problem with groovetube, And from what i understand they did not see fit to do anything. This tells me the administrators of this forum do not see any validity in your claim of wrongdoing.

Perhaps you can take from this that others do not feel any slight you perceive to be real warrants any action against GT.

At some point you have to ask yourself does your grudge justify disrupting the discussions on this forum for every other user? How is this fair?

Move on. it's an internet forum. Life is too short.
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Old Nov 12th, 2013, 05:35 PM   #10603
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I doubt he broke anyone's window or did any physical property damage. if he did i'd suggest you take it up with the proper authorities.

From what I understand in the previous thread you created you tried to contact the administrators of this forum about your problem with groovetube, And from what i understand they did not see fit to do anything. This tells me the administrators of this forum do not see any validity in your claim of wrongdoing.

Perhaps you can take from this that others do not feel any slight you perceive to be real warrants any action against GT.

At some point you have to ask yourself does your grudge justify disrupting the discussions on this forum for every other user? How is this fair?

Move on. it's an internet forum. Life is too short.
Well put.
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Old Nov 12th, 2013, 05:44 PM   #10604
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I'm realistically forming an opinion based on you trolling or goading him for "lying" somewhere else in response to unrelated posts. That's what I see.
Again, thank you for your objectivity in examining both sides of the story.

If you are looking for the other side of the story, it starts here at post 1044.

My comment in post 1049 about the attic refers to a comment in post 1027 of the same thread.

The gist of the issue extends to post 1162.
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Old Nov 12th, 2013, 06:02 PM   #10605
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I doubt he broke anyone's window or did any physical property damage. if he did i'd suggest you take it up with the proper authorities.

From what I understand in the previous thread you created you tried to contact the administrators of this forum about your problem with groovetube, And from what i understand they did not see fit to do anything. This tells me the administrators of this forum do not see any validity in your claim of wrongdoing.

Perhaps you can take from this that others do not feel any slight you perceive to be real warrants any action against GT.

At some point you have to ask yourself does your grudge justify disrupting the discussions on this forum for every other user? How is this fair?

Move on. it's an internet forum. Life is too short.
exactly. I'm no longer responding, because I, and I think other members are sick of threads being turned into grade 8. I'm guilty of letting it happen and being part of the circus, and I'm sorry to the other members.

Whether or not they let go of some little grudge from months ago, well that's not something that concerns me. As you said, it's just an internet forum.



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Old Nov 12th, 2013, 06:15 PM   #10606
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Well the bullies are out in full force once again.

jaw knee your purpose here, is only, to agree with those who insist they are right.

Don't think for a minute, evidence based on facts can count for anything here at Ehmac.

Everyone knows facts can be used to prove anything.

Repetition is the key here. If a few can repeat the same contentions often enough over a long durations…why then the truth becomes self evident.

Being contrary minded is bad enough but venturing into the area of being fair minded and taking the position of any reasonable person such as i-rui ha...well…well…that's down right unconscionable.

Who do you people think you are and where get off believing in fair minded reasoned discussion? Where will this kind of behaviour take us?
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Old Nov 12th, 2013, 06:20 PM   #10607
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I doubt he broke anyone's window or did any physical property damage. if he did i'd suggest you take it up with the proper authorities.
It's called an analogy. I could just as easily have used a name-calling incident as an example. It changes nothing.

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From what I understand in the previous thread you created you tried to contact the administrators of this forum about your problem with groovetube, And from what i understand they did not see fit to do anything. This tells me the administrators of this forum do not see any validity in your claim of wrongdoing.
I did contact them, both through reported posts & PM. You are correct, they did nothing about the name calling, which is what I contacted them about. The administrators of this forum are interested in one thing & one thing only: page hits.

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Perhaps you can take from this that others do not feel any slight you perceive to be real warrants any action against GT.
It's not a slight. The name calling is a personal attack, one that would have gotten him kicked off any forum with moderators. The outstanding issue is clear & twofold: he misrepresented my words, in effect, lying, and he called me what I consider a particularly nasty name. I'm not looking for action against groovetube, that solves nothing unless there is complete expulsion and, in light of the attitude of current administration, will never happen. I'm looking for 2 corrections & 2 public apologies, on these boards. Thus far I have one of 4.

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At some point you have to ask yourself does your grudge justify disrupting the discussions on this forum for every other user? How is this fair?
It's not a grudge, it's addressing a long time issue. groovetube has used the safety of the internet to lie & call people names. Two things that, in real life, I'm willing to bet would never have happened and, if it did, would have ended in a much different fashion. That is despicable enough on it's own. However, it's only two instances in a years long & highly visible trend on these boards where he accepts culpability for absolutely nothing he posts. It's always someone else's fault & he's always the victim. I'm tired of that. Many others here are tired of that, too. What I have here are two concrete examples of him in deliberate & malicious action. He can't pin these on someone else. He owns them both. He needs to deal with them both. How is it fair that he is the one perpetuating this disruption by failing to deal with it in a timely manner? Again, let's address the cause, not the effect.

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Move on. it's an internet forum. Life is too short.
Yes, it is a forum. However, life is never too short to not deal with responsibility...
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Old Nov 12th, 2013, 06:26 PM   #10608
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Thx, BigDL. That brought a tear to my eye...

Just one observation...

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Don't think for a minute, evidence based on facts can count for anything here at Ehmac.

Everyone knows facts can be used to prove anything.
Don't these two statements contradict each other? Jes' askin'...

As to facts, are you so wilfully blind that you can't see both the misrepresentation of my words & the name calling on the screen in front of you? Clear as this post?
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