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Old Oct 12th, 2011, 02:21 PM   #991
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The Tory crime bill being imposed on Canadians is anything but fiscally conservative.
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...the Conservatives have proposed an end to conditional sentencing (commonly known as house arrest) for a wide range of crimes. Theft of over $5,000 worth of goods and breaking and entering are two of the more prominent of these offences. Conditional sentences have, to date, significantly reduced rates of incarceration and saved tax dollars, without any corresponding reductions in social safety.
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Even more costly and bizarre, given the fact that a majority of Canadians support the decriminalization of cannabis, is the Conservativesí plan to punish anyone who grows six marijuana plants or more by imprisoning him or her for a minimum term of six months, irrespective of whether that person has employed any violence in his or her operations. (An RCMP study of marijuana cultivators reveals that less than 10 per cent of those apprehended are engaged in any kind of violent activity.)
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...this debate has very little, if anything, to do with evidence. The Harper Conservatives believe in punishing crime, even if the costs of their efforts reduce Canadiansí accessibility to health care and education. Their policies on crime are simply a window into their emotional and ideological worldview.
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Old Oct 12th, 2011, 02:24 PM   #992
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The Harper Conservatives believe in punishing crime, even if the costs of their efforts reduce Canadiansí accessibility to health care and education.
This is like saying that governments investing in phoney green energy are doing so at the cost of health care and eduction.
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Old Oct 12th, 2011, 03:06 PM   #993
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This is like saying that governments investing in phoney green energy are doing so at the cost of health care and eduction.
Except for the fact that the vast majority of Canadians want green energy, as opposed to the tiny minority that want to see more pot smokers incarcerated.
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Old Oct 12th, 2011, 03:08 PM   #994
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Except for the fact that the vast majority of Canadians want green energy, as opposed to the tiny minority that want to see more pot smokers incarcerated.
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Old Oct 12th, 2011, 03:16 PM   #995
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also green energy is something that eventually we'll need, as we have to find alternative energy sources.

So it's much more of an investment instead of pouring money down the drain like these crime bills are doing.
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Old Oct 12th, 2011, 03:27 PM   #996
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Except for the fact that the vast majority of Canadians want green energy, as opposed to the tiny minority that want to see more pot smokers incarcerated.
A large portion of Canadians see both Green Energy and incarcerating pot smokers as a waste of money. Pick your money-wasting poison. Spain and Germany have both been down that money-wasting windmill road.
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Old Oct 12th, 2011, 03:30 PM   #997
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I see that's why McGuinty was re-elected.

I call BS on that one.



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Old Oct 12th, 2011, 04:01 PM   #998
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Even more costly and bizarre, given the fact that a majority of Canadians support the decriminalization of cannabis, is the Conservativesí plan to punish anyone who grows six marijuana plants or more by imprisoning him or her for a minimum term of six months, irrespective of whether that person has employed any violence in his or her operations. (An RCMP study of marijuana cultivators reveals that less than 10 per cent of those apprehended are engaged in any kind of violent activity.)
Not accurate. It has to be proven to the judge that the possession of the plants was for the purposes of trafficking. If the judge decides it was not for trafficking the minimum sentence does not apply. The judiciary still has discriminatory powers in deciding if trafficking was taking place.

Makes me wonder if Mr. Boyd has even read the Bill closely or is he just going off of off here say.
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Not accurate. It has to be proven to the judge that the possession of the plants was for the purposes of trafficking. If the judge decides it was not for trafficking the minimum sentence does not apply. The judiciary still has discriminatory powers in deciding if trafficking was taking place.
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Great news!
Actually it is relative to the misinformation being disseminated.
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