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Old Mar 26th, 2011, 09:19 AM   #1
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Ok let's move into an election thread, from the there -might- be one, thread. Harper is reportedly headed to Rideau hall as I type.

How about this, no references to polls as nyah nayhs. More about actual policy. Less swiping things like, "the coalition", or references to Harper as a nazi. Or Jack as Taliban jack, the sort of thing to light the powder keg. Is it possible?

I'll try.



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Old Mar 26th, 2011, 09:30 AM   #2
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Iggy has officially ruled out coalition govt. which is an idiotic move on the Libs part. The Libs must think they can out the vote and defeat the Cons by themselves. I doubt it.
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Old Mar 26th, 2011, 09:30 AM   #3
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Sure, I'll play. May 2 date... thankfully that's relatively soon. One grows weary of these side shows.
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Old Mar 26th, 2011, 09:45 AM   #4
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Iggy has officially ruled out coalition govt. which is an idiotic move on the Libs part. The Libs must think they can out the vote and defeat the Cons by themselves. I doubt it.
I think Iggy had to. The coalition thing was a dirty word, and if he rules it completely out at the start, he can use the 2004 letter Harper sent to the GG with the bloc's, ndp's signature to counter him.

As to whether Iggy will hold his own, or go down in flames, I guess we'll see how good a campaign both he and Harper run.



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Agree with Groove. "Coalition" is indeed a dirty word. Iggy's putting all his eggs in one basket. Time will tell.

I'm thinking at this point it's going to be yet another Conservative minority.
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I still think the Liberals cooked their own goose by forcing an election. It seems to me that if people are tired of elections, they just might vote Conservative to end the continuing runs of elections not even two years apart on average with no change. Call it a retaliation vote or whatever, but that is the biggest danger the Liberals face given the lack of confidence in Iggy that even long time Liberals admit is an issue.
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I wonder if the Tories will have their little PC Youth clubs again like they did in the 70's,
I remember drinking beer at one of these clubs when I was 12 years of age.
Loved that, Drinking under age was okay with the PC party back then.
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Iggy has officially ruled out coalition govt. which is an idiotic move on the Libs part. The Libs must think they can out the vote and defeat the Cons by themselves. I doubt it.
All he has to do is give us beer and wine in the grocery stores
and the Liberal majority vote will be sealed.
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LOL

I missed out on that one. I too would have hobnobbed with the Young PCs if brew was involved. Alas, I grew up in Ottawa and we'd cross the river to get our hands on Brador. Boy, choices in beer back then were nothing less than dismal. But je digress.

Sinc, that's a distinct possibility... the Libs cooking their own goose. But I'm also thinking that HarperCo has a knack for bringing trouble to its own doorstep. Going to be interesting to see how this plays out over the next few weeks.
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Iggy has officially ruled out coalition govt. which is an idiotic move on the Libs part. The Libs must think they can out the vote and defeat the Cons by themselves. I doubt it.
Good move by Ignatief.

Canadians do not want a "Coalition with Separatists and Socialists", if this option were on the table it there is a good chance it would result in a Conservative majority.

If the Liberals want a shot at forming a government, courting "progressive" voters is not the way to get there. There aren't that many of them, and their votes are already split between the NDP and the Greens.

The key to success is the centre, ideally fiscally conservative and socially progressive. The Conservatives know this, which is why they are currently occupying this space.

If the Liberals want to get back in, they need to reclaim the centre, and nudge the Conservatives further to the right.

Perhaps they should claim "Balanced Budgets" as their own - point out that Liberals balanced the books, and that Conservatives ran us into deficit and want to run up deficits further with out of control spending on "Jets and Jails".

They could also hit hard on the G20 as a "Billion dollar boondoggle" that trampled civil rights, paint the long form census as an ideological move, and hit hard on Bev Oda.

They could also position themselves as the natural choice for federalist voters in Quebec.

This would not be enough to get them back in power this go round, but it ~might~ hold the Conservatives to a minority and position them for further gains in the future.

On the other hand, a coalition does nothing for them in the long run, and ~might~ hand the Conservatives a majority in this election.
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